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Thread: Slap's 40B

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgoldfarb View Post
    Yay!!!!

    I think it is safe to say we have all been waiting eagerly for you to break your 40g out of storage! I don't know about everyone else, but I love following these journals because it allows me to enjoy these new tanks vicariously... sort of feeding my MTS before I even have my first tank set up

    I am eager to see your finished stand. As you know I am building one myself inspired by yourself and gronlaura. I will build it next week (can I borrow your neighbor?) so I would love to see your finished stand and learn from your build.

    In terms of your many questions, I am far less experienced than you (or everyone else here, for that matter), but that has never stopped me from giving my opinions before, so here they are :

    I chose to go with real plants mainly because I like how they can contribute to "closing" the nitrogen cycle, using up nitrates and producing oxygen. I am hoping that they will help nitrates rise more slowly than they otherwise would and help keep the tank more stable. The whole thing just seems "elegant". Taking care of the plants may represent some added work, but I like the idea of having them in the tank.

    On stocking, not sure I can contribute anything original... as you know it took me a very long time to decide on mine! LOL. Plus, your larger tank gives you more choices than what I had! I like Hardy's suggestion of apistos or rams as "centerpieces" with 1-2 schools of small fish... the small schooling fish can be good "dither" to draw the shy Rams out of their caves.

    The substrate will depend on whether you choose real plants or not, and will also somewhat depend on your stocking (cories?), so maybe you should wait on this one until you make those two decisions.

    In terms of LED lights: If you choose to go with plants it will have a strong impact on the fixture you can choose. This is one I analyzed to death. If you go without plants I guess any good fixture will work. Some have blue LEDs to simulate moonlight. If you use plants, then you need a fixture of around 6500K, and suitable to the amount of light your plants will need. As you probably already know, the rule of "x watts per gallon" go out the window when you use LED lights. I found this thread extremely useful in helping me understand how much light I needed for my plant selection, and which fixtures can provide it.

    So, it seems one of your next decisions is whether you want real plants or not!
    Thank you so much...so many decisions to make, but I have time on my side...I am in no rush to finish, I just want to savor the experience, if that makes any sense...I would actually prefer live plants, but I need to research more about what types need what kinds of light...thank you for the link, let me check it out...

    And no, you cannot borrow my neighbor, I still need him for the walls of the stand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    I LIKE live plants, just haven't had great luck with them, even Java fern
    One approach I saw on plant selection is the "shotgun" method (and no, it does not involve shooting the LFS employee, grabbing the closest plants you can find, and running as fast as you can! )

    If you do fishless cycling, you go ahead and plant a range of different plants in the tank during cycling, to see which ones do well in your particular setup. Then, before adding your fish, you replant your tank to remove the ones that did not do so well, and add more of the ones that did.

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    For your two schools I would go with Black neons and Cardinals or if you can't find card's go with Neon's, they contrast well and swim in different sections of the tank.

    For something different if you can find them, a big school of Red phantom tetras would look great without any of the Serpaes aggresive behavior, mix with a smaller school of Lemons or Pristella (maybe try the gold-morph version) and you would have a nice contrast. Only drawback to this set-up is all these species swim in the same area.

    Something different for dwarf chiclids would be the Laetacara family.
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    @wgoldfarb


    ^^ That sounds like a good idea, thanks for mentioning it
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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler1 View Post
    For your two schools I would go with Black neons and Cardinals or if you can't find card's go with Neon's, they contrast well and swim in different sections of the tank.

    For something different if you can find them, a big school of Red phantom tetras would look great without any of the Serpaes aggresive behavior, mix with a smaller school of Lemons or Pristella (maybe try the gold-morph)and you would have a nice contrast. Only drawback to this set-up is all these species swim in the same area.

    Something different for dwarf chiclids would be the family.
    Thanks sir, more research for me to indulge in!
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    I appreciate all the stocking ideas, I really do, but for now I am going to concentrate on getting the tank stand finished and ready for the tank. Then, once I make up my mind about the substrate/rocks/wood/plants, we will re-visit my stocking options, we should have plenty of time while the tank cycles. One note, my house is pier and beam...wood floors..one thing I am concerned about is all that weight on such a small footprint...the wife does not want a 36" x 18" hole in the floor...I don't understand why, but anyhow...I am thinking that I may need a plywood base to put the stand on...what do you guys think?
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    That w0uld be fine, use 1" thick plyw00d under it, try t0 make sure it is centered 0ver 2 fl00r j0ists and it isn't g0ing anywhere f0r sure, 0f c0urse the misses might n0t want it al0ng a wall where the j0ists run fr0nt t0 back 0n the tank. In which case the plyw00d help distribute the weight acr0ss the fl00ring and a single j0ist (al0ng a wall near a c0rner preferred but n0t needed).
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    Personally, unless the beams are already rotten, I dont see a major need for a large plywood base. Your stand will distribute the weight without issues. You arent filling it with tungsten!

    Substrate - Black diamond grinding sand is what I would go with. Since obtaining it, I use nothing but anymore. Its inert so you would need root tabs and all that for your plants but imo looks better and stays better than substrate or the expensive moon sands petco sells.

    Rocks or driftwood or both will go great in the tank. It really depends what is primarily available.
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    for now I am going to concentrate on getting the tank stand finished and ready for the tank.
    Can't wait to see the finished product. Have you decided what wood/paint to use for the outside of the cabinet? If you add a shelf for smaller supplies (Food, etc), be sure to allow plenty of room for your filter under the shelf, as well as a place for your heater.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    One note, my house is pier and beam...wood floors..one thing I am concerned about is all that weight on such a small footprint
    I don't think it will be a major issue. If you think about it, a 40 gallon tank weighs around 450 lbs. That is not much more than two people (ok, two HEFTY people, or three slimmer people) standing right next to each other. The plywood might help distribute the weight better over the floor area to protect the wood, but I don't think you need it. It is not very different from having 2-3 people standing right next to each other.

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    OK, sorry guys....I'm getting hammered at work today, hard to keep up with your quick posts....

    So I need to consider what fish i want, and then build from there?

    I am thinking that I want a colorful community tank, maybe a couple of schools and then some others?

    They will have to be relatively easy to keep fish, that get along well, and that will do well in a 40 breeder
    Decide on the fish first - all other decisions are based on that. Your filtration and inline heater choices are great and give you many options for stocking.

    I just want to mention, only 1 of the 4 species in my 75 gal was on my original stocking list last August (the neon dwarf rainbows). I rewrote the list many times and the other 3 species in my tank were never on any stocking list! Your list will change at least a few times before being finalized.

    And the stand looks GREAT!!
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