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Thread: Slap's 40B
08-01-2013, 04:52 PM #11
lol all good.
I'd say real driftwood all the way... looks 1000x better and ages better (its not hard to do at all)
Having used turface and now black sand, I actually like both. Thats a very tough call. Plants can be done either way though. Just with sand you tie the stuff to the driftwood
08-01-2013, 04:52 PM #12
The m0re I hang ar0und here, the m0re I learn, the m0re I learn ab0ut fish the m0re I r00t my th0ughts ar0und the fish That I want and have. My next build- when I am in a p0siti0n t0 get t0 it- will be primarily built ar0und the fish and their needs, but that is just my preference, n0w.When in d0ubt read it until it makes sense, then read it again!
08-01-2013, 05:24 PM #13
OK, sorry guys....I'm getting hammered at work today, hard to keep up with your quick posts....
So I need to consider what fish i want, and then build from there?
I am thinking that I want a colorful community tank, maybe a couple of schools and then some others?
They will have to be relatively easy to keep fish, that get along well, and that will do well in a 40 breeder
08-01-2013, 05:31 PM #14
Ok, how about de's options:
2 German Blue or Bolivian Rams (look best over black sand)
1 or 2 schools (Cardinal tetras, neons, serpae tetras, harlequin rasbora, hatchet fish, lemon tetra, rummeynose tetra)
School of Otos, or 1-2 BN plecos
Or instead of rams do a harem of apistos, (1m 3f)
08-01-2013, 05:35 PM #15
I wish I had pics of each of those fish you mentioned in your post, next to their names (hint, hint)
08-01-2013, 05:45 PM #16
08-01-2013, 05:57 PM #17
You know.. I never did like the advanced fish - beginner fish concept. Research and you can keep any fish you want. Talk to experienced keepers and learn from their personal experiences with specific fish and you can keep any fish you want. If you want to subscribe to the advanced fish - beginner fish concept you may as well stock your new tank with mollys, guppies, or goldfish because if you never reach beyond your current skill level by researching you will never be able to keep anything else. If you want rams or apistos then read about them and ask people who have successfully kept them for a while (preferably years of experience) and learn from them what to expect and how to deal with any issues that may arise.People say if you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all... Then they wonder why am I so quiet.
Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes that reason is you are stupid and make bad decisions.
I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
A moderator on a fish forum should be able to identify an oscar... Don't you think?
08-01-2013, 06:08 PM #18
I think it is safe to say we have all been waiting eagerly for you to break your 40g out of storage! I don't know about everyone else, but I love following these journals because it allows me to enjoy these new tanks vicariously... sort of feeding my MTS before I even have my first tank set up
I am eager to see your finished stand. As you know I am building one myself inspired by yourself and gronlaura. I will build it next week (can I borrow your neighbor?) so I would love to see your finished stand and learn from your build.
In terms of your many questions, I am far less experienced than you (or everyone else here, for that matter), but that has never stopped me from giving my opinions before, so here they are :
I chose to go with real plants mainly because I like how they can contribute to "closing" the nitrogen cycle, using up nitrates and producing oxygen. I am hoping that they will help nitrates rise more slowly than they otherwise would and help keep the tank more stable. The whole thing just seems "elegant". Taking care of the plants may represent some added work, but I like the idea of having them in the tank.
On stocking, not sure I can contribute anything original... as you know it took me a very long time to decide on mine! LOL. Plus, your larger tank gives you more choices than what I had! I like Hardy's suggestion of apistos or rams as "centerpieces" with 1-2 schools of small fish... the small schooling fish can be good "dither" to draw the shy Rams out of their caves.
The substrate will depend on whether you choose real plants or not, and will also somewhat depend on your stocking (cories?), so maybe you should wait on this one until you make those two decisions.
In terms of LED lights: If you choose to go with plants it will have a strong impact on the fixture you can choose. This is one I analyzed to death. If you go without plants I guess any good fixture will work. Some have blue LEDs to simulate moonlight. If you use plants, then you need a fixture of around 6500K, and suitable to the amount of light your plants will need. As you probably already know, the rule of "x watts per gallon" go out the window when you use LED lights. I found this thread extremely useful in helping me understand how much light I needed for my plant selection, and which fixtures can provide it.
So, it seems one of your next decisions is whether you want real plants or not!
08-01-2013, 06:09 PM #19
I believe that I want to design a tank of my own, and then populate it with species that will be most comfortable with what I come up with...is this an OK plan?....there are so many choices to choose from when it comes to stocking that I'm becoming a bit overwhelmed by it, already
08-01-2013, 06:14 PM #20