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    Add enough ammonia to maintain or grow the current colony of bacteria. I wouldn't go over 2 -3 ppm.

    I would not wipe down that inside glass at this point. Remember the BB bacteria has to popular the canister first. Clean the glass after you have an established biofilter in the canister. It's ok to go ahead and top off the water. Just dechlor first.

    Ohhh...you'll be adding water with a water changer. Yes, Prime first in the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandz View Post
    I have never had a jumper in my tanks except for one crazy ass guppy... Swordtails and hatchets have never jumped on me BUT my grampa is another story... i just cant ever say you are safe because there are so many reports of jumping. I would start with your schooling fish first - 10 rummy and 10 hatchets if you go for them... You are fishless cycled so you can add almost everything at one shot. The pleco and the cichlids are going to break that mold for me. I always let them establish with shoaling species first because of their low bioload and then add in the centerpiece fish.

    If you went with the Columbians you could also go Lemon tetra and get a great yellow/blue red mix.
    Hey Sandz...I'm confused a bit...your grandpa jumped on you?...what did you do to deserve that??
    I like the idea of a yellow/blue mix, sounds cool
    Can I start with just ONE shoal, then add another later?...not sure I can come up with (or convince Mrs. Slap) that amount of $, plus shipping, all at once
    Just checked TWS, don't see the columbians (?)

    Quote Originally Posted by CrunchyLeaf View Post
    I like this advice a lot as well. I had to keep feeding my tank ammonia for about a week after my cycle was complete because I didn't order the fish in time and had to wait until I could arrange to be home when they arrived. That may have helped with the rummynose as well.
    Thanks CrunchyLeaf!...this waiting a bit before stocking makes perfect sense to me, too...I forget you have rummys, going back to your thread in a minute

    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus View Post
    Add enough ammonia to maintain or grow the current colony of bacteria. I wouldn't go over 2 -3 ppm.

    I would not wipe down that inside glass at this point. Remember the BB bacteria has to popular the canister first. Clean the glass after you have an established biofilter in the canister. It's ok to go ahead and top off the water. Just dechlor first.

    Ohhh...you'll be adding water with a water changer. Yes, Prime first in the tank.
    Thanks again...I'll leave the glass bio-filmy for another week, and add a bit of dechlor water
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    HONESTLY i THINK THAT ITS BEST TO SAVE THE MONEY FOR THE TWO SHOALS AND PAY SHIPPING ONE TIME... MUCH CHEAPER! Of course you can go the route of just doing one at a time. Its all up to you. Is there a reason you need them shipped? I believe in tws quality and all that but there has to be someone close that can get both those for around $1 a fish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus View Post
    Remember the BB bacteria has to popular the canister first.
    Populate, not popular. Hey, at least I got the spelling right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandz View Post
    HONESTLY i THINK THAT ITS BEST TO SAVE THE MONEY FOR THE TWO SHOALS AND PAY SHIPPING ONE TIME... MUCH CHEAPER! Of course you can go the route of just doing one at a time. Its all up to you. Is there a reason you need them shipped? I believe in tws quality and all that but there has to be someone close that can get both those for around $1 a fish
    I have to get them shipped, it's either that, Petco or Petsmart, or a LFS who won't order fish for me...and their selection leaves alot to be desired...you are right about paying for shipping only once, though...we just don't have a good fish store close, there are some 2 hours away in Houston

    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus View Post
    Populate, not popular. Hey, at least I got the spelling right.
    I knew what you meant, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandz View Post
    HONESTLY i THINK THAT ITS BEST TO SAVE THE MONEY FOR THE TWO SHOALS AND PAY SHIPPING ONE TIME... MUCH CHEAPER! Of course you can go the route of just doing one at a time. Its all up to you. Is there a reason you need them shipped? I believe in tws quality and all that but there has to be someone close that can get both those for around $1 a fish
    I did the math when it came time to order my fish. Because roselines are $20 each here, it ended up costing the exact same for me to pay to ship them from TWS as it would to buy them locally. This may not be the case when you are getting more common, less expensive fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrunchyLeaf View Post
    I did the math when it came time to order my fish. Because roselines are $20 each here, it ended up costing the exact same for me to pay to ship them from TWS as it would to buy them locally. This may not be the case when you are getting more common, less expensive fish.
    Thanks CL...I was kind of thinking the same thing...even if the LFS WOULD order fish for me, they are going to pass along the shipping cost to me as well

    Went back and looked at your rummys...they are so cool, and look so happy in your tank!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    Found this on another forum; is it accurate?


    There are actually three species of tetras that are commonly sold as "Rummy-nosed Tetras;" Hemigrammus bleheri from the Negro and Meta River basins, H. rhodostomus from the lower Amazon River basin and Orinoco River basin, and what is more commonly known as the "False Rummy-nosed Tetra", Petitella georgiae from the upper Amazon River basin in Peru; Purus, Negro, and Madeira River basins. As with most small South American fish, they typically are wild-caught and therefore very slow drip-acclimation and at least 2 week quarantine are highly recommended.
    Yes there are three species as others mentioned: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...d.php?t=101479.

    The H. rhododtomus is the most hardy but the H. bleheri is the most colorful, P.georgie we don't see as much.

    If you order from TWS you will get H.bleheri.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrunchyLeaf View Post
    Slap I read that on Seriously fish about there being 3 species commonly sold as Rummy-nosed tetras as well. I got mine from WetSpot and they specify that they sell wild caught Hemigrammus bleheri. For whatever reason I feel like that's more reliable than the ID tags at the local Petsmart, but it's hard to say.

    As for the rummynose being a sensitive fish, here's my personal experience. I was originally going to special order my fish at a store locally. They told me that they would not give me any type of a guarantee once I walked out the door with my rummynose because they said they were having a difficult time keeping them alive. They said more than 50% of the ones they were getting in the store were dying only days later and nothing they did stopped it. I was buying 20 so the prospect of having that many that were weak or unhealthy wasn't appealing.

    That's what made me decide to go with WetSpot. When I received the fish I drip acclimated them for one hour. I was concerned that any longer than that would stress them out. So far I haven't noticed any problems. I got quite a size variation from little rummynose up to one or two that are full grown, but they are super healthy, vibrantly colored and haven't shown any signs of stress or weakness.

    Judi also added rummynose to her tank right off the bat I think and, as far as I know, she also hasn't had concerns. I am wondering if the key to healthy and happy rummynose is getting a quality batch to begin with.

    As far as the hatchets are concerned, here's my take on that. Get what you want. What ultimately matters is that you are happy with your stock and that your fish are happy and healthy. You are vigilant in your fish care and I really think you will be able to take a couple of easy precautions to avoid a jumping problem. The off chance that one might hop the tank during a water change is not a reason to give up on something that you were really excited about.

    If you are just losing the vision of the hatchets though, and they aren't really that important, then find something that really sets your heart aflutter (I was going for cheesy) and go with that.
    CL gives very good advice here so a + 3 to her. As long as you slow acclimate and your tanks cycled; get what you want. Heres proof from two very conscientious fishkeepers.
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    ^^^ Thanks man...yeah, I saw the bleheri on TWS' website, but did not see Columbian tetras...are they maybe called something else?

    What is your opinion on waiting another week after I'm cycled to begin to stock?
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