Serious help needed!
My son and I just started a freshwater tank with help from "the guy in the store" who was quite helpful but apparently not all that knowledgeable. Our mistake in not doing research beforehand!
On his advice we started with 1 zebra danio, 1 black molly, 1 tiny guppy, 1 swordtail, and when the danio started harassing the guppy decided to get "company"- we were advised that up to 8 small fish in the tank was fine. Just before we bought the new fish the first zebra danio died, stuck between the aquarium wall and the filter sponge.
Current status? After less than 2 weeks, we have:
a 2 1/2 gallon glass tank - we almost ended up with smaller, plastic tank -
a sponge filter connected to air pump,
3 plastic plants,
1 dead zebra danio (no, not in the tank!),
2 live zebra danio, of which one appears to be female (different shape),
2 male guppies,
2 juvenile guppies that may or may not be male...
1 black molly,
1 swordtail (male, judging by the tail)
The water used: tap water treated with "dechlorinating salt" - a blue granulated substance, 1/2 tsp in the tank for 20 min before adding the fish last week.
Just read about cycling the tank last night and about using live plants - it appears we missed a vital step and we're now wondering if we should use natural plants instead... we're looking to go slowly with this new hobby but it seems we may have to step it up so the fish can be happy and healthy.
One more thing - we were told we didn't ned to change the water , just wash the filter sponge weekly?? but read that water should be partially changed on a two-weekly basis...
Last edited by MelandScott; 07-25-2013 at 05:38 PM.
Hi and welcome to the AC.
Before I'd worry about plants, 2 things immediately come to mind:
That little tank is overstocked
That little tank is not cycled
I would try to return the fish, and do a fishless cycle on the tank, see here: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
Then maybe you could buy your son a betta fish
Last edited by Slaphppy7; 07-25-2013 at 05:34 PM.
Return the fish you have currently, really only the guppy could live in that size tank. Typically the min tank size is around 5g.
The danio didn't die by getting stuck, most like died and got sucked up against the filter
-if possible return the fish, if not try to sell/give away on craigslist
-if you have room try for a 5-10g tank (not needed, but will give you more options)
-the 1" of fish per gallon is not accurate and shouldn't be used
-If you return the fish, read up on fishless cycling
-if you can't return the fish, read up on cycling with fish (even though these fish are WAY to much for this tank)
-You don't need live plants (they don't hurt, but get the fish settled and be comfortable with that before you go with live plants)
-buy a API Master Freshwater test kit
** I agree with IMMA, 20g would be best... but a 5-10g could be used for "micro" fish or a betta
Wow. Thanks so much for the help so far!
I'm not too sure how the forum works - if everyone who's replied will see a new post rather than a reply to each person, but I hope so... :)
Not against getting a 20-gallon -especially as I don't believe the store would take the fish back andd we were intending to expand... in time lol
Yes, I believe it is WATER CONDITIONER not dechlorinating salts - my mistake.
So far, I guess, our next steps are:
-cycle new tank with fish? I noticed a thread on cycling I'll look at when I get home later
-no new fish!!!!!
-no plants just yet...
Is there anything else that I'm overlooking? One abused fish is one too many (sorry danio :()
Oh, lighting... the room doesn't get bright light, so I have a desk lamp with "daylight" bulb a few feet away during the day and we take all the lights off at night. IS that good enough? Didn't find much on lighting except that fish can't close their eyes to sleep like we would - hence the dark at night
Last edited by MelandScott; 07-25-2013 at 05:54 PM.
well its good that you are willing to change the conditions.
I would recommend a 20g long tank, and you typically want 40g of filtration then (look into a aquaclear 50)
Do you have a heater? You may not need one now (summer) but you will need one later. Also, ask the store if they will take the fish back... some will
Thanks for the feedback.
We'll look into the fish return and filters
We live in a tropical climate so the heater shouldn't be necessary - should it? "Cold weather" for us is 25-28 degrees
All good advice you are getting here...you have research and a little work to do, but you CAN have a happy and healthy tank for you & your son...the people here will help you do that, like they have helped many others.
I would advise you to read as many of the "stickies" in the beginner section of this forum, good info there to build on.
Last edited by Slaphppy7; 07-25-2013 at 06:06 PM.
a siphon isn't "needed" but helps a lot, if you want to save some $$ at first just use a clean bucket, cup and piece of pvc hose (1/2" diameter) like 5-6' long.
Use the hose to siphon the tank out, and refill with the cup... its what i do on the small tanks i have
if it only gets to 23-25* C you may not need a heater... but you may eventually wanna pick on up.
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