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    If you mean store bought garden soil or compost, I would carefully review the bag contents to ensure that it has not been treated with pesticides. Even if you find no evidence of this in writing, you can't be sure that the distributor did not treat the soil/compost prior to bagging it simply to keep bugs from invading his property. Since it is not foreseeable that someone would use the stuff for something other that gardens, there may be all types of additives that might harm the fish. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbagby View Post
    She was referring to Limming's post, where he mentioned using "mts" to get rid of gas pockets. I'm curious about this as well.
    I was referring to malaysian trumpet snails or mts. They are normally viewed as a pest but if you have sand they are good at stirring it up to prevent gas pockets.
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    Ohhh so many acronyms. It gets confusing after awhile T-T There are multiple ways to deal with air. Another easy one is simple take a chop-stick and run it through/stab the substrate. That'll help release trapped air.
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    That works as well I would recommend the snail route though. With the snails you won't have to spend so much time poking holes in the substrate let the snails do the work for you.
    20 gallon tall: empty
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    yeah I could see the benefits to them. I've just seen some tanks online that get INFESTED with mts and no matter what the owner does they always come back when they've been believed to have been exterminated. If you can keep your feedings to the right amount when feeding your fish and can handle them MTS might be a good solution. I'm not experienced with them, but do they eat plant matter? Like will the feed off of live plants?
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    No, MTS will not eat live, healthy plant matter. Just algae and missed food and dead plant matter. :)
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    Don't the Miracle-Gro garden soils all contain fertilizer? The Miracle-Gro brand touts its qualities for enhanced plant growth, and the liquid Miracle-Gro is itself a garden fertilizer. I would expect even the organic version to contain organic fertilizers (as opposed to chemical fertilizer).

    I wouldn't use any commericial garden soils or composts in an aquarium. There are good plant substrates made specifically for aquariums. Your LFS should have a nice variety. Go to the aquatic plants forum to see what kinds of truly aquatic substrates are being used successfully in planted tanks.

    If you do wish to add fertilizers, use those that are made for aquariums such as Seachem's Flourish Comprehensive.

    Garden products are for terristrial gardens; aquarium products are for aquariums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mermaidwannabe View Post
    Don't the Miracle-Gro garden soils all contain fertilizer? The Miracle-Gro brand touts its qualities for enhanced plant growth, and the liquid Miracle-Gro is itself a garden fertilizer. I would expect even the organic version to contain organic fertilizers (as opposed to chemical fertilizer). I wouldn't use any commericial garden soils or composts in an aquarium. There are good plant substrates made specifically for aquariums. Your LFS should have a nice variety. Go to the aquatic plants forum to see what kinds of truly aquatic substrates are being used successfully in planted tanks. If you do wish to add fertilizers, use those that are made for aquariums such as Seachem's Flourish Comprehensive. Garden products are for terristrial gardens; aquarium products are for aquariums. --mermaidwannabe
    If you follow your own advice in regards to visiting an aquatic plant forum, you would see that many many people there are using a variety of garden soils for their planted tanks with great success. What are your recommendations based on? Clearly not any research or personal experience in this area, which is what advice should be based upon.

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    +1 to Kingfisher, being a member of a few different forums, including a aquarium plant one, many people use garden soil, dirt from there back yard etc etc etc

    A good cap is important. But there are so many different things to take care of with a dirted tank, thus the reason I didn't end up doing one.

    But the results are great.

    Things to watch for / take care of:
    Once planted, moving plants around can cloud water
    Need a good cap
    Need MTS to prevent air pockets
    Need a safe soil

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    Hardy is correct but the effort (I haven't found it any different then a substrate like ecocomplet) is well worth it. The plants grow pretty fast (my sword as probably tripled in size in about 2 months) plus its a lot cheaper I spent 10 bucks on the soil then 10 bucks on sand and I have enough to do my 29 and probably my next tank if I go the planted route. On top of saving on substrate outside of maybe iron (you can also bury clay to get around this) you won't need any ferts for a long time. Something thats important is that you need to have good lighting or it well be algae heaven. To combat this set it up just the substrate and water for a week or so and several big water changes this well reduced excess nutrients. Then plant it all at once the plants may look bad for a little bit as they adjust to the dirt but after that period it well look great.
    20 gallon tall: empty
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