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    Perfect. Sounds like a plan! :-)

    Also, I started reading about the plecos... I guess you are recommending one to help keep any possibility of algae under control? it says that the bristlenose pleco can grow up to 15 cm, which is relatively big! I think I would prefer a much smaller one (or even 2 smaller ones) rather than such a large one, because all the other fish i will have are small. Are there any smaller varieties that are easy to keep? I found the Ancistrus Claro (Gold marble Bristlenose catfish) but not sure if it is comparable or easy to keep. Any other smaller plecos?

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    BN plecos typically are 3-4" full grown, but are longer and skinny... and actually they don't do great when it comes to algae control. But more for a lower level fish that will help a little with algae

    You will be the primary way to get rid of algae, otos are another option but I have found that they really don't seem to last long in the aquarium setting. I know people that have different experiences, but I feel like i lose one every month or two for no apparent reason.

    Cory cats could also work, but I recommend pygmy cories if so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy85 View Post
    Cory cats could also work, but I recommend pygmy cories if so
    I agree with pygmy cories for the bottom portion of you tank. I'd also suggest 6-8 harlequin rasbora and 6-8 columbian tetra.

    I think you've made and excellent choices for equipment.

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    You could always go with nerite snails for some character....and they really like to eat algae. The eggs from them wont hatch unless you have a brackist water tank so you would not get overrun with snails.

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    @Hardy85: thanks again for all your great feedback... you are rapidly adding to my reading list (which is a Good Thing!). The pigny cories sound very much like what I wanted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus View Post
    I think you've made and excellent choices for equipment.
    Thank you! The feedback from everyone here has been extremely helpful. I am still undecided on lighting... I really had my heart set on the hidden led system because I love the clean look it provides, but I guess the jury is still out on whether they provide sufficient light. And I guess the consenus is to go for the higher filtration of the 2213. So, My list is essentially all set, time to hit the online stores!

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    You could always go with nerite snails for some character....and they really like to eat algae. The eggs from them wont hatch unless you have a brackist water tank so you would not get overrun with snails.
    Snails! That is something I had not even remotely considered. Time for more reading!

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    I don't think you'll ever be sorry for going with a canister filter. Canisters hold so much more media that it makes them highly efficient and the 2213 has been a work horse for years. With a little luck and regular maintenance, the 2213 may last a life time. And the spray bar can be adjusted as needed.

    Hardy85 had a really good suggestion for lighting with a simple, inexpensive incandescent hood with CFLs. If this were my tank, I use this lighting setup before I spent a lot of money on LEDs. LED prices will come down over time, so you can always upgrade at a later time. You simply won't have that much money invested in a dual incandescent hood with CFLs.

    The Aqueon Pro heater is a good choice as well. I've had very good luck with mine. I have a 100 watt in a 29 gallon tank and a 200 watt in a 30 gallon tank. The 150w is a better choice for a 29 if you live where the winters get cold.
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    Was g0ing t0 suggest snails as well, but the Lady beat me t0 it.
    When in d0ubt read it until it makes sense, then read it again!

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    @Taurus: Thanks for the feedback. 2213 it is :-)

    My tank will sit prominently in the living room, which took a lot of negotiating with the wife. I am trying to keep it as clean-looking as possible so she doesn't regret the decision to let me put it there. As a result I am now looking at the Hydor inline heaters. I do live in a place with winters and the room can get as low as 60 degrees at night, or even for prolonged periods when we are on vacation. Since yoru advice i for a 150 watts submersible, do you know if I would also need 150 watts of in-line heating, or are the two not comparable? Hydor makes a 200 Watt and a 300 Watt version. If I needed 150 watts for a submersible, can I get by with the 200 for the in line?

    Because of my desire to keep a very clean-looking tank I really like the hidden leds. They are $45, so they are not as expensive as others I have seen which cost $200 or more. My only concern is whether the light will be enough for low-light plants, but I have heard from others who are successfully using these same leds in a low-light, low-tech tank. I think I will give it a try to avoid any complaints from the wife (a benefit which is definitely worth $45!). It is not so much a case of wanting to get a low cost fixture, as it is spending $45 so my wife doesn't regret the decision to let me put the tank in the living room :-)

    @Longshot -- ok, two votes for snails... I have already started reading up on them. To be honest it is not somethign I would have ever considered on my own!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy85 View Post
    Sand is a cheap, good looking substrate since you can use pool filter sand for white looking, or black diamond for a black sand
    Sand sounds very cool! The black diamond looks stunning! Question: would you vacuum sand just as you vacuum gravel? Would the vacuum not suck the sand up and out of the tank?

    If usign sand, would I need to add some nutrients mixed in (or underneath) the layer of sand, such as laterite or similar stuff? Since most the plants I am considering do not really go into the substrate (anubias, jave fern, java moss) I am guessing I won't need to mix or layer this with anything, but want to make sure.

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    If you are doing anubius, java fern and moss you don't need any nutrients. And to vac the sand you hover the gravel vac about 1/2"-1" above the sand to suck the junk off the top.

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