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  1. #1

    Default First Shellie Tank -- shellies killing each other?


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    I'm planning on starting my first Tang Shellie tank in a 15g tank. It's a 2 x 1 x 1 ft tank and I was planning on buying a group of 6-8 juvenile lamprologus occelatus "gold", raising them and eventually ending up with 1 male and around 3 females.

    However I have been talking to the people at my local club and several of them have mentioned that they all tried keeping shellies (occies, as these are the only ones we can get in NZ) and they would all start out with a decent group and eventually end up with just 1, as they would kill each other until only one remained.

    I thought my tank was big enough for a species only occie set-up but now I'm not so sure. I've been warned that it's very likely I'll only end up with one fish!! Thoughts on this anyone?

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    Never heard that. Looking af seriously fish I suspect that too few shells and too many fish are the most likely causes. Perhaps start with 4-6 fish and add a few rocks to allow for territorial boundaries

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    Bah, maybe I should just go with something easy like my original South American idea! These Tangs sound complicated. And it would be hugely disappointing to have them shipped all the way down from auckland just to have them die on me.

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    I wouldn't want to go through that either - you want all your fish to remain alive LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Bah, maybe I should just go with something easy like my original South American idea! These Tangs sound complicated. And it would be hugely disappointing to have them shipped all the way down from auckland just to have them die on me.

    From what I know these are more temperamental. If you want an easy start with shellies you really want brevis, not ocellatus.

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    Can't get brevis OR multis in NZ sadly, they're not on our [very small] "Allowable Import" species list. Along with everything else cool ever.

    We can get Neolamprologus brichardi and leleupi occasionally but these aren't appropriate for this tank either. Can get Altolamprologus calvus but $$$++ EXPENSIVE.

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    well darn. I was looking forward to seeing how your shellie tank worked out. Sounds like you may have to regroup. so sorry. If you do decide to go south american, you can have some lovely dwarf cichlids. :o)
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, pair kribs, & nerite snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted:severum, EBJD, congos, royal pleco
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  8. #8

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    I still think you can do a shelli tank and believe that lack of territory is the biggest issue in these small tanks. Starting with 6 juvie fish, make sure they are the same size and you have multiple shell stacks and you should be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandz View Post
    I still think you can do a shelli tank and believe that lack of territory is the biggest issue in these small tanks. Starting with 6 juvie fish, make sure they are the same size and you have multiple shell stacks and you should be fine.
    that would be great! Go for it Amelia!!!
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, pair kribs, & nerite snails
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    Sorry to hear of your loss, it always sucks to lose fish. - mommy1 Wish it was a real one, sorry for your loses :( - steeler58 So sorry about your fish! - SeaLady Here is pie. - mommy1 for the one you lost :o( - fishmommie 
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    Here is hoping for you. I really want to see you get what you want Amelia. I dont want you to be scared of these cichlids when you dont have all the info. Talldutchie said it and I concur, its more likely they were not given propper territory than they were just aggressive. THe main reason Mbuna, Haps, Tangs fight is because of space, not because they are just SUPER agro.
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