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    also go check out the link on this website, in the general aquarium forum titled "all you need to know planted tanks", in the "Links" subforum

    and go to the website contained in the link, titled "americanaquariumproducts.com"

    it contains alot of information about water chemistry and the essential role calcium and magnesium play in maintaining any kind of aquarium inhabitant.

    hope this helps.
    Last edited by birdman1275; 11-25-2013 at 10:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie View Post
    you could also feed your snail foods high in calcium - check out this link for calcium rich foods.
    http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=71890
    + one to the veggies

    I've always had the best luck with that approach and you don't have to worry about dosing anything in your tank. But I always like the more simple appraoch
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
    "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo
    Fishless Cycle Cycling with Fish Marine Aquarium Info [URL="http://saltwater.aquaticcommunity.com/"]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff View Post
    + one to the veggies

    I've always had the best luck with that approach and you don't have to worry about dosing anything in your tank. But I always like the more simple appraoch
    + to this which was why I was asking how the addition of the chemical affected PH. Seems it would add more problems than benefits.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie View Post
    + to this which was why I was asking how the addition of the chemical affected PH. Seems it would add more problems than benefits.
    i feed my snails zuchinni and supplement calcium and magnesium, without magnesium the calcium wont be able to be as readily utilized.

    like i said read the article on calcium and magnesium supplementation not only for your snails health but your tanks health as well.

    its a bit lengthy but if you skip down to the calcium and magnesium section i think it could be of great use to you, if not to each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdman1275 View Post
    i feed my snails zuchinni and supplement calcium and magnesium, without magnesium the calcium wont be able to be as readily utilized.

    like i said read the article on calcium and magnesium supplementation not only for your snails health but your tanks health as well.

    its a bit lengthy but if you skip down to the calcium and magnesium section i think it could be of great use to you, if not to each their own.
    Thanks. I'll definitely read it. As i said, I was curious how this affected your tank and am always open to new ideas. My snails get zucchini as well as cauliflower and occasionally spinach. These are the 3 veggies I've found they (and the pleco) love the most. Also watermelon ...:o)
    Last edited by fishmommie; 11-26-2013 at 09:07 PM.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie View Post
    Thanks. I'll definitely read it. As i said, I was curious how this affected your tank and am always open to new ideas. My snails get zucchini as well as cauliflower and occasionally spinach. These are the 3 veggies I've found they (and the pleco) love the most. Also watermelon ...:o)
    how do you feed the spinach, do you blanch it freeze it, or just drop it in and how do you keep it in place or anchor it?

    i'd like to try some new veggies but not sure how and zuchinni is all ive tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdman1275 View Post
    how do you feed the spinach, do you blanch it freeze it, or just drop it in and how do you keep it in place or anchor it?
    I've done the blanch and freeze method with the spinach. I form it into thin, quarter size discs then drop it in the tank frozen and it sinks. By the time they find it, it's thawed.

    as for other veggies, I use veggie clips which I either suction cup on the side of the tank or just drop it in. there's just enough weight to sink the zuc or cauliflower. no need to blanch those. just sink raw.
    A lot of people will simply stick the veggie on a fork, tie a string on the fork, then lower it, pointed tongs down so as not to be a potential hazard to the fish.

    Here's a photo of my silly ABNP who somehow managed to get UNDER the veggie clip to eat zucchini. You can see 2 blue mystery snails zeroed in on the zuc. one crawling up onto the clip and the other not far away
    Don't leave any uneaten bit longer than 48 hours.1-newly planted 90 001.JPG
    Last edited by fishmommie; 11-27-2013 at 09:34 PM.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    thanks for the info, thats a silly pic of your plec. My BNP will take the zuc i drop in and pin it up against the side of the tank in a corner so try and hoard it for himself.

    i'll try the spinach though.

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    Thank you for this info about the different kinds of calciums. I, too, have snails with this shell issue, and have always been concerned that adding calcium would alter my pH too drastically. I have also been concerned about using a reef product in a freshwater tank, but since you folks seem to have experienced no ill effects from it, I think I'll give it a try. Very conservatively, of course. Now, I know which type of calcium to use.

    -- mermaid
    20 gal. high: planted; 8 white cloud minnows, 10 RCS, 2 blue shrimp, several snails; AC50, Azoo air. 65 gal: planted; 7 rosy barbs, 6 glofish,, 2 zebra danios, 6 rosy red (fathead) minnows, 3 dojo loaches, several snails; AC110 x 2.

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    Be very very very careful dosing a marine calcium supplement in a FW tank. Those calcium supplements will most likely raise your calcium level well over 500 to 600 ppm (when following the directions on the bottle) when the calcium levels in nature in fresh water are typically well below 400ppm (and typically below 100ppm in North America). If you choose to dose marine calcium supplements, I would suggest getting a calcium test kit and carefully monitoring the situation as adding calcium will raise the GH of your water. The GH of fresh water is mostly determined by the levels and balance of calcium and magnesium. Increasing your calcium level high enough will increase you pH. This is how crushed coral raises your pH in freshwater aquariums, they leach out calcium into the water which in turn raises your GH which will then increase your pH.
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
    "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo
    Fishless Cycle Cycling with Fish Marine Aquarium Info [URL="http://saltwater.aquaticcommunity.com/"]

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