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    Yeah, don't see the ph crash either. Those things aren't that comomn and the inverts would show it.

    What I don't see is any real information here.

    What was in there before? What was added? Which fish started dying? How quickly? Was water added? What was your last test score before this happened? What is it now?

    Without any real information we can only offer condolences and point you into the direction of medication that may work

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    I have heard and thoroughly debated the Qt's are more stressful argument. I will agree that most don't set up a proper QT and therefore they might be more stressful, but a properly set up QT is not anymore stressful than your main tank and can save a lot of fish from dying. However, none of this matters for your current situation or the future if you don't have the room for one.
    Talldutchie is correct in saying it is difficult to give much more help without more information. I wish I could be of more help.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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    This is more than likely a bacterial infection brought about by a bloom in population due to an increase in temperature for the particular species that has developed. If you were to check the temperatures of the water at the pond you have taken these fish from versus your own system, aquarium, you might find that your aquarium is operating several degrees warmer than this body of water. While you could introduce either wide spectrum antibiotics or other anti bacterial agents I feel your best luck would be to do a water change to dilute the total population of bacterial organisms of 25% per day, if you can check the water temps of this pond in several areas and adjust your tank to the temperature if it is lower. I would add Melafix and pima fix in about a 10 to 20% dosage from normal as you are mixing them together to treat the fish. I do not know how these chemicals affect inverts. Upon changing the water I would re add about 5% of the dosage of each mela and pima. Watch the fish closely if you think you are dosing in too much skip a day or two of adding. The pond fish were cooler and that is why you had no bloom, along with less stress due to a larger environment to absorb the bacterial blooms problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indian Woods Angels View Post
    This is more than likely a bacterial infection brought about by a bloom in population due to an increase in temperature for the particular species that has developed. If you were to check the temperatures of the water at the pond you have taken these fish from versus your own system, aquarium, you might find that your aquarium is operating several degrees warmer than this body of water. While you could introduce either wide spectrum antibiotics or other anti bacterial agents I feel your best luck would be to do a water change to dilute the total population of bacterial organisms of 25% per day, if you can check the water temps of this pond in several areas and adjust your tank to the temperature if it is lower. I would add Melafix and pima fix in about a 10 to 20% dosage from normal as you are mixing them together to treat the fish. I do not know how these chemicals affect inverts. Upon changing the water I would re add about 5% of the dosage of each mela and pima. Watch the fish closely if you think you are dosing in too much skip a day or two of adding. The pond fish were cooler and that is why you had no bloom, along with less stress due to a larger environment to absorb the bacterial blooms problems.

    I have a pinpoint ph meter calibrated which I used once I suspected an issue. It was in the mid 5's. I also can attest the new fish came from high 80 degree water. My pond is sadly cooking around 89 degrees mid day but the fish couldn't care less.

    As for my tank parameters:

    Other than the low kh and ph - every other reading was zero with about 20ppm nitrates. I keep my stock low. Also, the fact that both new and old fish died at the same time negates the immunity theory I think.

    It appears what was going to die has died so the question bothering me most is why plecos and cories took hits across the board. Only otos made it from that category.

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    This just occurred to me. It is very possible where I live that some of these collection lake/canals could be brackish. In fact, I found some clams in some places.

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    Regarding 89 degree temps I am fairly certain they did have a bacterial bloom. The natural body of water was most likely a lot cooler. There are fresh water clam species. I would do a salinity test using a hydrometer to see if you have salt in your water. At a pH of 5 most bacteria that nitrify no longer survive. Ammonia is chemically rendered non toxic yet present and if the pH rises it turns toxic again, it becomes progressively more of an issue as the pH (percentage of hydrogen) increases as this chemically converts more elements back into ammonia. I'm not so sure of how you arrived at having a pH of 5 something but it is not a good thing to have. The pond was just a larger body of water and absorbed the bacteria bloom and did not kill the fish.

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    How many additional fish did you add all at once? Could this have been ammonia burns that killed them?

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    aside from all of the good advice above, if I were going to put in fish, wait 2-3 months for fish-bourne diseases to die off and keep it a shrimp tank.
    Thar she blows!!!

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    yup best to let it set a bit now.

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