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  1. #1

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    Hi everyone, haven't been around much. Just had a baby, so I've been real busy. But now I need some help.

    I was making my rounds to my tanks yesterday and found that the four goldfish in my 60 gallon tank are ALL sitting on the substrate. They're capable of getting up and swimming around if stimulated, but then it's right back to sitting. It doesn't seem to be a buoyancy issue - they're not struggling to stay afloat when they do swim. Obviously since all four started doing this at once its something systemic. I checked the water parameters. 0 / 0 / 5-10 as usual. (The goldfish are all fairly small so really this is a very understocked tank unless they start growing more). I noticed the tank was a bit warm - 77 or 78 degrees. They were due for a water change so I did an extra large one (about 75%) and lowered the tank temperature a few degrees, which got them up and swimming a bit but pretty soon they were all back to sitting. In any case this certainly isn't the first warm period we've had this year, so I'm not convinced temperature is the problem. I can't find anything physically wrong with any of the fish.

    Any ideas?
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    1st of all, congrats on the baby!

    2nd - have you tried feeding them yet to see how they respond?

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    Congratulations dad!

    Could it be an oxygen issue? Adding water would also add oxygen and if the surface isn't properly agitated the oxygen would be quickly depleted again. That with the temp might cause the symptoms you describe.
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    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
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    +1 to that!

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    add an airstone and see if that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imma24 View Post
    1st of all, congrats on the baby!

    2nd - have you tried feeding them yet to see how they respond?
    thank you!
    I fed them this morning but I didn't watch to see if they ate. I should have - I will at dinner time. Yesterday, when they started this, was their no-feed day.

    To everyone suggesting oxygen, current aeration is provided by a HoB filter and a bubble bar. The bubble bar air feed was valved way down though. I've opened it up now and it's pushing at least twice as many bubbles through. I'll see if that makes any difference.
    300 gallon mega tank: sailfin pleco, clown loaches, silver dollars, roseline sharks, congo tetras
    75 gallon community tank: black skirt tetras, danios, bronze corys, harlequin rasboras, otos, bristlenose and bulldog plecos, assassin snails, red cherry shrimp, bamboo shrimp
    60 gallon goldfish tank: fancy goldfish

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    Could be constipation. What was the last thing you fed them? High protein diet?
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    Turning up the airstone had no effect. Their diet is NLS pellets. Would be very strange for all four to come down with constipation at the exact same time.
    300 gallon mega tank: sailfin pleco, clown loaches, silver dollars, roseline sharks, congo tetras
    75 gallon community tank: black skirt tetras, danios, bronze corys, harlequin rasboras, otos, bristlenose and bulldog plecos, assassin snails, red cherry shrimp, bamboo shrimp
    60 gallon goldfish tank: fancy goldfish

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    May be a parasite, then, since all 4 are effected. =/ The only other thing I could think of is Swim Bladder Disease, but it's odd for them all to come down with that at the same time, too.
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    I'm inclined to rule out swim bladder problems because, as I've said, they don't seem to have any trouble maintaining buoyancy when they feel like it. I've had goldfish with swim bladder problems in the past and you can see them struggle to maintain altitude... it's not like that. Parasite... hm. I did use some media from this tank when I set up a QT tank for some new arrivals a couple weeks ago, then I returned the media after the QT period was over. I haven't seen any signs of trouble with the new fish (which went into a different tank) but it's possible, I suppose.
    300 gallon mega tank: sailfin pleco, clown loaches, silver dollars, roseline sharks, congo tetras
    75 gallon community tank: black skirt tetras, danios, bronze corys, harlequin rasboras, otos, bristlenose and bulldog plecos, assassin snails, red cherry shrimp, bamboo shrimp
    60 gallon goldfish tank: fancy goldfish

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