Thread: New 100 gallon came with fish
06-11-2013, 10:20 PM #11
We have a 50g, 30g and 2 5g tanks and my 6 and 7 year olds would like fish in their rooms and so would my 3 year old. The 3 year old is getting a 5 gallon with a betta and maybe 2 otto's. I know 5 is ideal, but I do not think 5 would work with a betta in a 5g. The older girls will get the 30 gallon. They want to keep the otto and the eel in that tank and get more fish. I am trying to see if the Angels can go in that tank. If not we will put them in our room in the 50g with maybe the catfish or one of the smaller pleco's.
Good idea, bad idea?
06-11-2013, 10:24 PM #12
I am sorry for sounding knew to tanks, but I accidentally got this mess on my hands and am trying to fix it. The only things we have had before are Betta's, African Cichilds, small plecos, mollies and guppies. I did not expect this kind of mess.
06-11-2013, 10:25 PM #13
06-12-2013, 03:59 AM #14
0Thank you. What can I put with him?
Just FYI ottos are also schooling fish so you should add a couple more of those too.
Appart from that, I agree with everything else everyone has already said. Either keep the angels and rehome just about everything else and build a lovely community around them, or rehome the angels and plecos and keep the tank as an African aquarium. I can't help with that as I've never kept Africans.
About your daughters 30g, you should be able to have one angel, a nice school 8-10 angel-proof tetras (phantoms, lemons, rosies, harlequin rasbora, etc) and a group of 6+ Kuhli Loaches (or other bottomdweller if you decide to take the Kuhli back). I suspect that the otto would be eaten by an angelfish.
06-12-2013, 06:06 AM #15
06-12-2013, 08:02 AM #16
I think the large common pleco won't grow all that much any more, quite a few of the commonly traded species max out at "only" 12 inches. The current tank is just barely big enough for it. It's a softwater species really but quite adaptable and should be able to live with the cichlids.
The angels could work in a 30 gallon if it's high enough. The kuhli loach could work in that tank. Since it's a single individual of a shoaling species you wouldn't see much of it. You could supplement it with a small school, say 8 cardinals. Fully grown cardinals are too big to eat for angels.
Another issue that no one seems to have mentioned. African lake cichlids of which you seem to have quite a few, need hard water with a PH of around 8. Angels, like most south American species, will do a lot better in soft water with a neutral or slightly acidic ph, say between 6.5 and 7.5. Your 50g contains some cichlids but which ones? IF they're also African rift lake then the most logical action would be to set up the big tank for them.
In your posts you don't seem to mention what your tap water is like.
Additional complication could be the other catfish or plecs you refer to. Identifying these is sometimes tricky and quite a few shops in your country like to sell big species. So to avoid nasty surprises down the line I would advice you to try and identify them. We're happy to help but we'd need some good pictures to work with.
06-12-2013, 12:55 PM #17
Your tank is also probably larger than you purchased it thinking, it has 2 center braces which would indicate a 6ft setup...given its height I would say most likely a 125G. It also came with very adequate filtration another perk.
Choose what fish you like from the tank(if any) and stock around that. L.fasciatus are very cool fish often seen housed with large cichlids as sort of a dither fish. They are tough as nails, and often leave other fish alone outside of their own kind which they typically fight unless in large groups. Which is interesting how 2 seem to be coexisting in there.
1 common pleco wouldn't be horrible for a tank this size with adequate filtration...they are huge bioload producers so beware. There are many different subspecies of "common pleco" so it really is hard to determine how large yours will get. Most seem to grow between 12-18"...of course some report 2ft+ common plecos but evidence of them growing that large in the home aquarium is few and far between.20G High-Tech Planted|50G High-Tech Planted|50G Goldfish Tank|56G Column Low-Tech Planted
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06-12-2013, 05:27 PM #18
Our cichlids are African. The smaller Pleco's are the same as the larger black ones. I will try to take pictures of all the fish but it is hard as the fish are almost always hiding or moving. I am not the best photographer. I will ask my husband to try.
I think the current plan is to put the Angel's in our old 55g with a smaller Pleco, and look at the fish everyone has mentioned that can go with them and see what we like best.
The 100g will keep all our Africans and maybe 1 large pleco (but only if upon measurement the tank is larger than 100g.) the catfish, if they can stay and a few of the smaller plecos.
The Kuhli loach will get 4 new friends, so will my daughters oto, we will add 5 neons and either an African Dwarf Frog or a Betta. I need to do more research but that will all go in the 30g.
My youngest will get a 5 gallon with a betta, or she will get the 55g and no betta. Her name is Angel and she already claims the Angel fish as her own.
Everything else will get a new home, preferably where they can live out their life in comfort. We are in Southern California if anyone has a pond.
06-12-2013, 05:32 PM #19
We paid very little for all we got and I am very happy with all we got, put I wish I had known about the fish and I would have made sure to ask the kinds and been more prepared.
06-12-2013, 05:39 PM #20
046 gal fw tank with black skirt tetras, neon tetras, spotted corys, cherry barbs, otoclinus, snails & 4 amano shrimp - plastic & live plants
5 gal QT
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