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06-06-2013, 07:53 PM #1
Ich coming back? How long to treat after last spot???
I have been using Jungle Labs All in One Treatment for ich. I guess the treatment is about a week. I saw the last spot on Tuesday and then just did my 25% water change and put my carbon back in but now I just noticed this afternoon a couple more spots on my head and tail light tetras. They had it the worst. I had thought it was gone. Maybe I didn't treat long enough after the last spot?
I followed directions on box but remember reading somewhere that you should treat for a week? or a few days AFTER last spot?
I have started the med again.
Allergic to all things furry.
06-06-2013, 08:08 PM #2
06-06-2013, 09:52 PM #3
I'd be afraid to use meds for another extended period. I have had very good luck treating ich with heat only - and it's never come back. Up your tank temp over 2 days to 86F. leave it there until you see the last spot. then LEAVE the temp at 86 for another 7 - 10 days, doing a couple PW/C during that period. Then slowly lower the temp back to normal
During the heat period, lower the water level a little and put in a bubbler to help with oxygenation.
Oh - and do a large water change to get rid of the meds before you start the heat treatment.
06-06-2013, 09:59 PM #4
Thanks. I am sure it is not stress related as I just have a school of the red eye tetras and few very nice and gentle platys. They all get along just fine. No nipping whatsoever. Everyone is happy.
Fishmommie, I have read that heat alone doesn't work at killing all the ich. However, since it HAS worked for you I am tempted..... I am not sure. When I turned up the heat before (when this all started and I was trying to go the natural route) the fish seemed stressed and pooped ALOT. BIG long poops coming out the butt. What is that?
But just having said that the ich return is not stress related, I can say that the heat seemed to stress them, so I very gradually turned it down again to 79 F.Allergic to all things furry.
06-06-2013, 10:19 PM #5
Perhaps you should go with TD's rec and treat again with the same med you're using rather than change it yet one more time rather than risk the heat and see if a repeat of the same med won't work for you.
This is a stubborn one, that's for sure. The problem here may be that the ich has been in the tank for so long it's become resistant to any of the treatments you've used.:o(
Good luck - and it might be worth checking out the fish disease section and reading about ich to get a better understanding of how the infestation works and why longer treatment is often necessary.
06-06-2013, 10:22 PM #6
Thanks, I will continue on with the same med longer. it seemed to be doing a wonderful job, but the treatment was only 5 days... I guess not long enough.
Crossing my 'fins'.Allergic to all things furry.
06-07-2013, 05:07 AM #7
I never said the return of ich was stress related, the thing showing up in the first place was probably stress related. If you are sure it isn't then good.
The temperature that cooks ich ivery quickly s actually higher still, 88f. 86 would take a few days PRoblem is, that's also extremely close to the temperature that kills fish and it will already kill some species.
When you turn up the heat the fish' metabolism goes into overdrive and so they poop a lot.
Turning up the temperature somewhat and doing a longer course of a good ich cure is usually the best solution in my opinion but my last personal experience with the parasite is ages ago.
Last edited by talldutchie; 06-07-2013 at 05:10 AM.
06-07-2013, 10:34 AM #8
guppymummy - poops coming out the butt is normal....if they were coming out anywhere else I would be concerned.
I have administered the heat treatment to 50 different species (quarantine protocol), and never once have I lost a single fish. Even "cold" water fish have received the treatment. You are not in jeopardy of killing your fish doing a heat treatment. 86 or 88, it still takes 5 days or so for the fish to be spot free.125 - BGK, pictus cats, silver dollars, kissing gouramis, palmas bichir, delhezi bichir
125 - Red severum, bolivian rams, Turquoise rainbows, irian red rainbows, loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, pearl gouramis
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, elephant nose, spotted ctenopoma, upside down cats
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06-07-2013, 01:37 PM #9
Thanks a ton Jaysee and Talldutchie. I am going to slowly increase the heat. ;)Allergic to all things furry.
06-07-2013, 04:27 PM #10