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Thread: So uhh, I'm in a dilemma...
05-26-2013, 12:42 AM #1
So uhh, I'm in a dilemma...
Went to my local forum, found a guy selling RCS and flame moss.
decided why not-be a neat addition.
I didn't expect how that combo came when he bagged it up (he own's his own lil lfs in the area too)
but it came in 3 bags, 2 had random amount of RCS, the 3rd held the flame moss...well in that flame moss is a bunch of RCS too, and some duckweed (that i'm picking out as we speak)
The flame moss came in just a big ball floating together right now.
so everything is sitting in my QT now.
Do you see any issues for putting them all in my main tank? I don't want to lose the flame moss since I don't have any lights or stuff on my QT.
I don't know how the RCS will handle the main tank's current (yet). i've looked up QT'ing shrimp, and it's a 50/50 split on when people do it vs not doing it.
Thoughts? What would you do?
05-26-2013, 12:53 AM #2
I would introduce them into the main tank. With shrimp there isn't much to go wrong except that maybe due to the tanks inhabitants, some may go missing.
If your good with hitch hikers in your moss, which is usually pretty clean, get it into a tank so it can feed.
Flame moss is awesome. I bought some and tied it to some driftwood a year ago, looks great. I had no snails from it. Mind you it was in a water bottle and I did inspect if for snails and/or eggs. I dipped it in alum before adding it to the main tank as well.
Just make sure to acclimate your shrimp. Once they are accustomed to your water they can take alot.
ps. Make sure to get something like a pre-filter or nylon over your filter in-take so the shrimp wont get sucked into it. They do so like to hang out on the in-takes.
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05-26-2013, 01:01 AM #3
I'll treat my QT as the acclimation period for now, but the I asked the guy his tank params and we have around the same pH and hardness, so hopefully they'll have a easy transition.
I saw a snail or two in the bag :( so i'll be sure to inspect for those buggers too.
I don't have any prefilter 'screen' so i'll run to petco (only store open atm) and see if they have anything of the sorts.
the RCS are reallllllllly tiny right now, so i'm hesitant that my fish will think they are snacks.
05-26-2013, 02:30 AM #4
I got some snail hitch hikers on a moss ball (never saw a single one when I added it to the tank). Now I have trumpet snails multiplying in my 30 like rabbits. I HATE them. So I would only warn you to do whatever you can to insure you don't have any of those type of hitchhikers + I'd treat the flame moss with alum as Strider suggested.
I don't know how I'm going to get ride of mine now. I have nerites and mystery snails in that tank so I don't want to use any chemical treatment. Also don't want to get an assassin as I'm afraid he'll go after my desirable snails.
BTW - nice score!30 g FW planted:corys, female ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, rummies, mystery & assassin snails
15 g FW planted:2 male guppies, neons, pygmy corys, clown pleco, 4 types of shrimp, mystery & assassin snails
90 g FW planted:congos, rainbows, roseline sharks, kribs, male ABNP, peppered cories, assassin snailss
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05-26-2013, 02:52 AM #5
it is a great score, the flame moss looks sooo cool. i'll post a picture to my photo thingy to show the update.
i've done my best to look for the little black dots in the moss. only see like 3 so far. so lets hope they don't sneak in.
this is the downside of some plant purchases. :(
BTW, Strider/anyone-can flame moss be planted in the sand?
i've dug a patch into it and put a rock on top of the bunch. but am not sure if that'll work or not?
05-26-2013, 04:24 AM #6
Never used it but I would assume it would work like that.20 gallon tall: empty
29 gallon: moderately planted with 9 bloodfin tetra, 1 german blue ram, 11 glow light tetra and 1 BNP
10 gallon QT: empty
05-26-2013, 05:53 AM #7
05-26-2013, 09:27 PM #8
To fishmommie: Just want to relate my experience with assassin snails and nerites, but I have no experience with mystery snails. I have assassins breeding in one tank for over a year with one nerite. No problems for the nerite and I never see any of the pond snails I used to have in this tank. I see only assassins and the one nerite.
I have another tank with trumpet snails now - seems like thousands, and I hate them worse than pond snails. I was picking off 50-60 just from the tank walls during water changes which I do at night. I've started moving a few assassins to this tank within the last couple of weeks and I have a nerite in here also. No problems with the nerite here either. I'm going to be upping the army of assassins as there are still hundreds of these trumpet snails in here. I'm not worried about the nerite.
05-28-2013, 12:45 AM #9
I agree with talldutchie, the buried moss will eventually die away as it's not getting any food, light or circulation. I dont know if it will stay put after the buried moss has past as I dont know your tanks current in that area.
Moss grows like crazy with enough light and nutrients so experimenting wont kill off the whole plant. Thats a great plus. Experiment away.Warning; Bulldog Pleco guarding my Sons tank now..
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05-28-2013, 12:51 AM #10
why not attach it to a small rock to keep it in place? my shrimp tank just has it sitting on the bottom atmKING OF THE GOLD BARBS RAWR!!!!
I wonder if i plant one of my tiger barbs would the demon seed grow to a full tree?
gotta love them bunnies!
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