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  1. Default Stocking South American cichlid question


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    When stocking these cichlids is it recommended to over crowd like it is with the Africans to lessen aggression?

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    I don't think it works the same. But it might depend on exactly which you are looking at.
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    Generally no. The difference is going to be that the mbuna and all those africans are aggressive but smaller so they can set up smaller territories. A green terror alone can consider an entire 75gallon tank his. Overstocking for these larger bodied fish causes issues with nitrates and aggression levels.

    That being said, it depends on your size tank and future stock and that fishes temperment to determine what works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luke77 View Post
    When stocking these cichlids is it recommended to over crowd like it is with the Africans to lessen aggression?
    NO! In fact with most species this will lead to disaster. Most south american cichlids are best kept in pairs, multiple pairs only in a lot of room with territorial boundries. A few like discus and angels can be kept in groups to spread some agression and estalblish a pecking order.

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    If you have a big enough tank, then yes. Overstocking with the big SA cichlids will give the same results as overstocking with Africans. The problem is, the big ones are all such messy eaters, and big waste producers, you need a big tank to do this. So you're looking at a couple hundred gallon tank, at least, if you want to over stock the big SA cichlids.

    The same principle will work for any aggressive fish. Not just cichlids. The more fish you have, the more the aggression is spread out among many fish, rather than just 2 or 3.
    Last edited by kim92; 05-22-2013 at 02:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kim92 View Post
    If you have a big enough tank, then yes. Overstocking with the big SA cichlids will give the same results as overstocking with Africans..
    LOL...ahhh..try telling that to a green terror, a pacu, or an oscar when another SA cichlid wonders into THEIR territory. I respectfully disagree.
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    So do I. You could make something like that work if you'd provide enough room for territories but then you're into the tank sizes monsterfishkeepers.com deals with

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    Ok I currently have 3 large angels(2, 6" and 1, 8") they all get along great. I also have 2 GBR's and 8 corys. I'm wanting to add like 4 Bolivian rams or maybe 2 or 3 apistols. Something that likes soft and acidic water. My tank is a 55 gallon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus View Post
    LOL...ahhh..try telling that to a green terror, a pacu, or an oscar when another SA cichlid wonders into THEIR territory. I respectfully disagree.
    You could easily keep a green terror, oscar, jack dempsey, severum, and some angel fish in a 125 gallon. You could also add some larger schooling fish in there too. Bottom dwellers, etc....
    A pacu belongs in a pond.
    Last edited by kim92; 05-23-2013 at 12:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talldutchie View Post
    So do I. You could make something like that work if you'd provide enough room for territories but then you're into the tank sizes monsterfishkeepers.com deals with
    That's what I said. In a big enough tank........ it will work fine.

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