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  1. #1

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    So at this moment I have 4 fish in a 55 gallon reef tank. A Tomato clown (med. size), a yellow-tailed Damsel (small), and two Fire Gobies (AKA dart fish of medium size). The tank is 55 gallons with a sump, 60 plus pounds of live rock, 4 power heads, and a canister filter I added on to clarify the water. I have a shallow live sand bed.
    There are 2 cleaner shrimp, 4 blue legged Hermits, and a variety of snails.
    I have various corals in the tank with a skimmer in the sump.
    My nitrate readings have been near zero all along but I don't want to over stock.

    Question; can I add a few more small to medium fish without having to do daily water changes or increasing my live rock poundage?
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    Everything that is alive counts as bio load. There are a lot of variables to consider here. The most important one is how experienced you might be and how well you will interpret your tank if or when it might face a problem. With this in mind you have to consider the comfort factor and the ease of keeping this aquarium. If it is easy to keep up and you feel you are on top of the situation I would say that sure, you may be able to add one more specimen to the tank. I would go small though. And I would be patient and realistic. So many times the culprit in failure and problems is a lack of reality and patience. This causes issues which just stress our capacity to truly enjoy the aquarium. If in fact you really feel that you simply must have just more fish I recommend adding another tank rather than over loading the one you have. If you can't add another tank then I would just enjoy the one you have stocked lightly and easy to keep. It's important to keep it enjoyable. Have fun.

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    Thanks for the reply Indian Woods Angels,
    Right now the tank is a pleasure to keep up. I do weekly 20% water changes and there have been no sicknesses and the nitrates are staying down.
    Coming from a fresh water background for the most part, I've always had a feel for what a tank could hold without having to be on top of it everyday.
    This saltwater tank is still a mystery for me. I check things every day. Maybe I'm paranoid but I'm just trying to stay on top of problems before they really become a problem to the inhabitants.
    What I was looking for is there a rule as to how much of what you can have in a saltwater tank comfortably.
    Kind of like the 1 inch per gallon guideline for fresh water which depended on your filtration, tank structure, and inhabitants.
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    Not really because you have all of the other forms of life and all of those would take up oxygen. Relatively speaking water holds 20% of the capacity of oxygen that air does and saltwater 20% of that. You could sort of say that whatever the amount of freshwater fish allowed per gallon that would be the number at 20% of it. We use better filtration on saltwater and we are able to break proteins out efficiently which adds capacity so maybe if we look at 40% of freshwater capacity as a rule of thumb we could be close to the desired number. Never enough though. Been there and done that.

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    Think of it this way, you have plenty of filtration with 60 lbs of live rock and a skimmer in the sump. Right now, your parameters are in line and no nasty algae break-outs. That would tell me your set-up can handle the current bioload and some more. How much more can be hard to determine

    I would think you could add one or two smaller fish, but this would depend more on the temperament of your cinnamon clown fish and the damsel. Sometimes both of these fish can be a little territorial. If that is the case, then I would say no. I would recommend waiting until they reach their adult size and see.
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    The Damsel and the Clown do have their territories. They seem to respect the others area and back out when met by the other. The only one the Clown goes after is my hand. Not just a little peck either. I can feel those little teeth sawing at my skin.
    The reason I asked was I have always had my eye on a Mandarin. I had one in my last tank (I know they are a challenge to feed), and was thinking my pod population is growing, maybe it can support one. The Damsel is picking off the cope-pods when they get close enough in the evening.
    Are Mandarins still strictly pod eaters or have they been know to feed on other more conventional foods since my last experience. I dont trust the salesmanship of the lfs employees.
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    I've heard a general rule for SW is 10gal/fish...but the temperament of your fish is key. Territorial aggressive fish are a true pain in a tank with live rock, unless you are a canny trapper its almost impossible to remove a bad addition without taking out almost all your LR.

    Speaking to mandarins, they seem to be more and more tank raised and eating prepared foods over just pods these says. My lfs has started stocking mandarins and will feed them to prove they will take prepared foods. So when you go shopping for them, just ask them to feed the fish while you are there, and you will see whether or not they are a good prospect to take home.

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    Thanks sheamurai. Thats what the lfs dude said too but I was sceptical. I'll try the show me theory.
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    I have tried two Mandarins now and managed to get them both to eat frozen foods allong with the constaint eating of pods. Unfortunately, I only had each of them for about a month before my carpet anemone ate them. I think I may wait until I have another set-up before I try another mandarine.
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    Sorry to hear that about your Mandarins Cliff. You would think fish would stay away from a carpet anemone. I've seen a few that were really large so I've stayed away from them.
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