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    Great! I'll go purchase myself some prime and a better thermometer. Anything to prolong this little fellas life. Nothing worse than telling your 2yo that their pet fish is indefinitely "sleeping" at the bottom of the tank. To young to introduce them to the realities of life.

    The betta does have a good qty of silk plant cover but i never thought about a cave or hollow log. I'll pick one up today along with the prime and a better thermometer.

    Excellent quick advice. Thanks again.

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    Oh and the larger filter too....thank you for the link. I'm thinking now that the kit probably wasn't the best choice. Just goes to show that researching a topic prior to a purchase saves money and headaches. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whoaty55 View Post
    Oh and the larger filter too....thank you for the link. I'm thinking now that the kit probably wasn't the best choice. Just goes to show that researching a topic prior to a purchase saves money and headaches. :)
    I HEAR YA...when you have a week or three to spare, you can read my epic journey here...I just won't leave the people here alone!

    http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...d.php?t=111494
    10 Gallon Beginner Tank... Journal

    40 Gallon Breeder: ... Journal

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    First, wait a while on the Neons and the shrimp. Despite their name as a beginner fish, they really like an establish aquarium to live. Otherwise, you bring them home, they do the six hours of swimming, start to do some barrel rolls, and every one of them is dead in the morning when you wake up. I might be wrong on the amono shrimp, but most of the inverts I have dealt with are highly ammonia adverse.

    Except Trumpet Snails... they are immortal. Our pointy shelled overlords, if you will.

    Also... Bettas ... don't like change. You are a lot better off having a tank with fish in it... and then putting a betta into it. Going the other way can, and usually does, lead to some displays of territoriality as the betta rejects the idea of roommates.

    Furthermore... bettas and neons together requires the right betta, the right neons, and the right tank. Betta Splendens will flare and flash at any brightly colored fish... neons are skittish. The neons need to be a little tougher, and they need places to run and hide if they want.

    Of course, you have to be careful with the nippy tetras too... like the Serpea... they can shred your betta's long, flowing fins.


    Everyone has stories of how they put betta with everything... like me, below, and everythign was wonderful. And everyone has stories about how such things went very, very wrong in a very, very short span of time. Simply put... a Betta with tankmates ALWAYS requires a plan B. If you are forced to make use of plan B, and if you have bettas, you will, your plan B will become the new plan A... to which you better already have another plan B.

    As for the temp... depending on your location of purchase, most bettas are fine at 76-78. A good many have probably never seen 82-86 in their life. High quality show pieces from local breeders are the exception to the rule. The ones you rescue for the little cups are petsmart or walmart are either acclimated to lower temps, or dead. Newly introduced bettas to a tank are usually immobile, but then it should move around a good bit. Your betta is never going to be a zebra danio, but it should be active and alert. If it continues to be extremely sluggish... then kick the heat up a few degrees.


    Truthfully, all of this is a lot less scary to live that it is to read. Bettas are wonderful, personable fish that learn to recognize their owner and even nuzzle your hand if it enters the tank. It's actually kind of irritating as you try to do maintenance. We wish you luck!
    Looks about 40 Gallon Tank
    Betta, Buenos Aires Tetra, Neon Tetra, Harlequin Rasbora, and Otocinclus
    Wisteria, Amazon Sword, Java Fern, and my unstoppable Trumpet Snail Army

    Looks about 75 Gallon Tank
    Wet and Empty; thinking Scalare, Corydoras, Otocinclus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whoaty55 View Post
    Oh and the larger filter too....thank you for the link. I'm thinking now that the kit probably wasn't the best choice. Just goes to show that researching a topic prior to a purchase saves money and headaches. :)
    to the AC! Research and this forum will get you where you need to be as a fishkeeper.
    My 75 gal Journal & My Dual 29 gal Journal
    My 75 gal - 10 Gold Pristella Tetras, 4 Scissortail Rasboras, 9 Neon Dwarf Rainbowfish, 5 Longfin Zebra Danios and 2 Regular Fin
    My Dual 29 gals, a work in progress - Tank 1 - Amano Shrimp, RCS, Peppered Cories, Tank 2 - Glowlight Danios and a Calico BNP

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    I'd be careful at this stage switching out filters. Remember, you're just getting your cycle started. If you do switch out filters now, make certain you either:
    keep the current filter running with the other one until your tank is fully cycled OR move the media from your current filter into the new filter so you don't lose what BB you have been growing. Make sense?
    So if there's a cartridge in your filter now, tuck it into the new filter along with the cartridge that comes with that filter. there should be room.
    And whatever you do don't rinse your filter or filter cartridges in TAP water unless you've treated the water with water conditioner or the chlorine in the water will destroy ALL of the BB you have grown.
    Rule of thumb - don't get new filter media EVER unless it's falling apart and rinse your filter media EVER unless there's a ton of gunk on it and if you must rinse it, rinse in ONLY in water you've removed from your tank or in water pretreated with water conditioner.
    And I'd also keep the betta at 82. He's much happier there.

    You could add a moss ball or two and a banana plant to his tank then he'd also have some live plants to help eat up nitrates :ol)
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    ++ to the above^^
    10 Gallon Beginner Tank... Journal

    40 Gallon Breeder: ... Journal

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    @ Slaphppy7- Good thread with a lot of great information. Thanks!

    @ moghedan- I was afraid of that. The acclimation of the betta into a larger home of his own prior to adding other fish wasn't the best idea. I really have no plan B and at this time no room for another tank so i guess "nemo" as my son calls him will live happily by himself in his aquatic mansion. LOL, "nemo" such a generic name especially for a betta void of color....he's pretty much all silver and nothing like a clown fish but hey.......what my son wants.....my son gets. :)

    @fishmommie- by cartridge do you mean the charcoal filter or the bio filter that looks like a holey sponge? Ive been super confused by that. Do i ever change the bio filter? And how often do i change the charcoal filter. or change neither and just rinse?

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    No problem
    10 Gallon Beginner Tank... Journal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whoaty55 View Post
    @ Slaphppy7- Good thread with a lot of great information. Thanks!

    @ moghedan- I was afraid of that. The acclimation of the betta into a larger home of his own prior to adding other fish wasn't the best idea. I really have no plan B and at this time no room for another tank so i guess "nemo" as my son calls him will live happily by himself in his aquatic mansion. LOL, "nemo" such a generic name especially for a betta void of color....he's pretty much all silver and nothing like a clown fish but hey.......what my son wants.....my son gets. :)
    just and fyi i've never had difficulty introducing other fish to my betta tank. so you could be fine. everyone has different experiences

    @fishmommie- by cartridge do you mean the charcoal filter or the bio filter that looks like a holey sponge? Ive been super confused by that. Do i ever change the bio filter? And how often do i change the charcoal filter. or change neither and just rinse?
    both. Don't change either one out. Keep them until they fall apart - could be years - regardless of what the mfg says. the charcoal is basically there to help with water clarity but after a month, it's useless. doesn't hurt to leave it as even BB will grow on the charcoal. So bottom line, keep both and if either need rinsed (and it should be good brown and gucky before you do that) again, rinse in old tank water.
    FYI - after your cycle is complete and your tank is good and established, you can cut a hole in the floss surrounding the charcoal if you want, dump it out and stuff some filter floss into the cartridge to replace it.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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