500l / 132gallon Community Tank - Compatable fish
My first post... Please be patient?
Ok, so I currently have a 60l / 16gallon tank with:
- 6 x Rummynoses
- 6 x Cardinals
- 3 x Kuhlis
- Lots of plants
I am getting a 500l tank tomorrow from a very seasoned fish-keeper, with 2 x Parrots in. I am giving the Parrots to a friend of mine that already has a few of them.
What I would like to do is the following:
- 12 x Rummynoses
- 12 x Cardinals
- 6 x Kuhlis
- 12 x Cherry Shrimp
- 2 x African Dwarf Frogs (if they are legal in Namibia - still waiting on the verdict)
Apart from those ones, I need a bit of help...
I am looking for larger fish (about 15cm / 6 inches in size) that I can get in pairs that will not eat my small shoaling fish. It needs to be focal fishes (if that makes sense).
I looked at Discus - they are my favorite to date, but seeing as I am not a very seasoned fish-keeper, I am afraid to get them. I have heard that they are very expensive and die for nothing...
I also looked and Bolivian and German Blue Rams, but, although they are SUPER beautiful, I am afraid they will not have enough of an impact in that size tank. They are about 8cm / 3 inches.
So... To post the question: What bigger fish can I place with my teeny-tiny-fishes?
Have you read this excellant link from Lady Hobbs?
Originally Posted by Karin
10 Gallon: 8 Platys, 2 Guppies, Snails, some RCS, and plants
40 Gallon Breeder: 10 Rosy Tetras, 10 Red & Blue Colombian Tetras, 10 Marbled hatchets, 7 Pristella Tetras, 6 Sterbai Corys, 1 Ancistrus "Rio Tocantins", 2 Re-homed Platys, plants and DW
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Thank you! I had a look at it and it seems really thorough. I will study it and see if I can come up with something that could work!
I don't know if it is soft or hard water and what chlorine levels are here. I have been asking my local pet shop for testing kits for some time now, but no luck yet... So I don't even know my nitrate / nitrite levels! I do weekly 25% water changes and with the new water I add dechlorinator and bacteria cultures every time. I suppose my water is not bad, judged by my rummies' bright red heads, but unfortunately for now that is all I go by. My fishies look healthy and happy.
Plants - definitely yes! I love plants and the plants that I have in my current tank already grew so tall that they bend under the top of the water surface.
Temp - It gets pretty hot in Namibia, but my tank is in a cool spot. In Summer we usually don't put the heater on at all.
I am looking forward to your advice! Please ask more Q's if you need to know more about my setup. I'll answer where I can! :)
I don't know if I read them wrong, but these sites seems to be contradictory...
Badmans: African may eat smaller fish
ratemyfishtank: Africans can be kept with Tetras
Badmans: Angels will eat small fish
ratemyfishtank: Angels can be kept with Tetras
Badmans: Sharks are mildly agressive
ratemyfishtank: Sharks can be kept with Tetras
Badmans: African Dwarf Frogs and cherry shrimp can be kept with small fish
ratemyfishtank: no invertebraes
There are more, but it is all so confusing, I am rather going to go sleep now and see if it makes more sense tomorrow...
That would make for quite an empty looking tank. I would double the tetra schools, and at least quadruple the kuhli loach school. I'd skip on the frogs.
Originally Posted by Karin
There are some peaceful giants in the cichlid world. Severums would be an option - though they grow large they have very small mouths. The fish in my avatar are red severums. For medium sized cichlids, angels and festivums are an option - they are both group oriented. Chanchitos are good option, if you can find them. Blue acaras are another. Cupid cichlids are another group oriented one. And there are keyhole cichlids. Of course it will also come down to what you have available to you. I'd also look to get a larger schooling fish, perhaps in the barb family. Again - depends on what's available to you.
125 - big fish - BGK
125 - cichlid community - cichlids (red severums, chanchitos, bolivian rams, blue acara, chocolate), rainbows (yellow, turquoise, red and boesmani), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, pearl gouramis, golden wonder killis
90 - african community - Congo tetras, african knife, african butterflies, spotted ctenopoma, palmas bichir, african featherfin
10 - female pink convict
5 - betta/ADFs
QTs - 2x29, 20H, 20L
+ 1 to the last two posts about increasing the size of your tetra schools.
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correct me if I am wrong but i dont think that many large fish would not eat the cherry shrimp? can someone please verify this.
I was told almost all omnivorous or carnivorous fish would eat them if they can fit them in their mouth.
that said, my cherry shrimp are pretty quick and wily haha they might be fine!
True. But some fish are not that skilled in hunting shrimp in plant cover.