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  1. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie View Post
    I'm a little confused here - was the BNP currently in QT ever in the tank that was exposed to ich? If not, he needn't be kept at 86F. I'd gradually lower the temp.
    Yes, my remaining BNP, currently in the QT, was in the 75 gal where there was ich. Both BNPs were in the tank when the ich outbreak happened.
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  2. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie View Post
    It's called Metro with a red + sign, by Healthaid.
    And with that high temp, make sure to keep the water really clean with daily W/C's. according to badman's tropical fish forum, the BNP can tolerate the 86 F.
    again, good luck
    If I do W/Cs, won't that remove the meds?
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    It will but you just redose based on how much water you changed out
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  4. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus View Post
    Here's a link to a site that specializes is bristle nose plecos. You may have run across it already. I hope you can find some useful information on treating your pleco here.

    http://www.bristlenoseworld.com/f7-the-pleco-hospital

    I do hope your BN pleco comes around and improves. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

    Taurus,

    I am registered with this forum. Found this article there - it is exactly what BN1 had. I am now pretty sure my two BNs were eating the bottom dweller wafers (they have been disposed of), even though they had broccoli available at all times (literally 24/7), algae wafers 3 times a week and seaweed 2 times a week. And there would have been nothing I could have done for him once he bloated.

    BN2 is currently in the QT, same but much less severe symptoms, being treated with PraziPro. According to the article, she probably won't make it, but she took much longer to bloat and is not anywhere near as swollen as BN1 was. The cats & I have all our digits crossed.

    Regarding the article's last paragraph, "Top Tips": I do everything on that list - except I fed the carnivore wafers for my bottom-feeding tetras. Major, major bummer.

    BTW, I have not had any replies from planetcatfish.


    From Bristlenoseworld.com:

    Subject: BLOAT DESEASE Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:34 am


    it seems a few people are suffering from bloat of late so this may be of use

    bristlenoses are generally algae "grazers". Their mouth have been adaptedthis way to rasp or scrape algae found on rocks in search of their primary food source. By doing this they pick up all sorts of micro organisms that live in the algae. They are 90% vegetarian. The fact that their digestive track can only digest mostly vegetable matter and dont do well when fed high protein i beleive this is why a lot of hobbyists could suffer with Bloat.

    The first signs of “bloat” are usually white stringy faeces, followed by the withdrawal of the affected fish at feeding time. Heavy breathing, clamped fins (usually the pectoral fins being held tightly against the torso) and problems with balance and swaying, seem to preclude the final stage of bloat where the fish literally balloons up and expires. These symptoms usually persist for anywhere from 3 days to 10 days. The bloating is caused by either a protozoan parasite or bacteria which is already present in most digestive tracks. This is why i always worm all my fish and always new additions to my tanks. Once the fish’s immune system is lowered, the parasites bacteria takes hold and multiplys blocking the digestive track and ultimately consuming the internal organs.
    Once your fish has bloated it is usually too late to save them. Worst of all Bloat seems to be contagious. Other fish in your tank can contract bloat though sifting and eating waste left to rot in the substrate. That is why it is so important to watch your fish eat at meal time. bristlenose are manic eaters and if for some reason one fish isn’t eating or is hanging near the bottom. Something is definitely wrong.
    The dreaded Bloat can be induced by a number of factors including, stress, poor water conditions, OVERFEEDING and in most cases feeding the wrong type of food. ie high protein avoid foods that contain a high protein level, anything meat based or warm blooded animal by-products. A good quality spirulina flake diet alge waffers and fresh washed veg and weekly water changes of at least 30% can go a long way to prevent illness in your tank of bristlenose.
    Many medications exist for bloat, some more harmful than others to your fish and your tank setup. For starters a large water change is recommended before treating the entire tank. It’s quite likely that poor water conditions are the cause once you’ve eliminated diet
    ive gone through most meds trying to treat bloat keeping tropheus is part and parcel with this disease. the only med i found to do the trick if caught at an early stage is octazin. some people say epson salts work on this disease. but if find epson salts does nothing for this disease and does more harm than good imo.

    The Top tips for keeping bristlenoses
    good water is a must
    Feed mostly a vegetive diet.
    Remove all decaying waste when you do your weekly water changes using a water vacuum or python .25% to 30% per week minimum.
    make sure youre bristlenoses have propper bog wood at all times this helps with the digestive system.
    Last edited by gronlaura; 05-15-2013 at 03:25 PM.
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    I thought you probably were aware of the site, but just in case you weren't, I posted a link. Sorry you had to loose BN1 and my fingers are still crossed for BN2 and the rest of the gang.

    Don't beat yourself up too badly. At least we all learned something from the experience.
    When in doubt, do a water change.

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    Thanks, Taurus. I will be getting another BNP (or 2, depending on BN2s outcome). I love these fish and they really add interest and excitement to my tank. I also think they are quite beautiful.
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    That's good to hear! I would hate to see you give up on BN plecos just because of this incident, especially because you enjoy them so much.
    When in doubt, do a water change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus View Post
    That's good to hear! I would hate to see you give up on BN plecos just because of this incident, especially because you enjoy them so much.
    Now that I am pretty sure why the bloat happened, I know what to avoid. Four of my 11 tetras (the smallest and most shy) want to eat mid-tank or from the bottom. From now on, they will have to learn to come to the surface to feed. No more wafers on the bottom and no more releasing a pinch of flakes mid-tank. With the higher tank temp of 86 (to combat the ich), something interesting has happened though - they have been feeding at the surface! I hope that continues when the temp goes back to normal.

    I'm not one to give up and I like to find out why things happen. I'm glad I found the article on bloat in BNPs and was able to quit doing what caused it.

    I have learned from this forum that knowledge, both good and bad, and a lot of research, is the key to success in fishkeeping. By reading all the posts you can, even those that might not apply to your situation, you begin to be able to tell the good advice from the bad and learn not only what to do, but what not to do.
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    Yes. That can be a problem with Pristella tetra. It's something I've experienced myself. As you've seen, they will learn to come to the surface for food eventually. It's easy to overfeed trying to get food to those in the lower levels of the tank. Learned that myself recently.

    And I so agree with your last statement. I'm amazing at what I've learned by reading all posts in all threads.
    When in doubt, do a water change.

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    Keeping tanks with a variety of fish, I've learned that a little over feeding is needed in order to make sure all the fish get their share. One of the ways I accomplish this is to feed small foods - even my big sevs eat 1 and 2 mm NLS pellets. It is much harder for any one, or group, of fish to hog the food when it's everywhere. I put the food in the filter outflow so that it gets distributed throughout the tank. Ultimately the pellets all reach the bottom and all the fish eat from the bottom, but before that happens, each group of fish has an opportunity to feed at the level to which they are accustomed.
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