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Thread: Cycled

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    I added TSS 8 days ago to my 2.5g tank with betta that had been already running for 7 weeks (no progress)
    My readings tonight are:
    0 ammonia
    0 nitrite
    40-80 nitrates

    I think i'm cycled. (very quickly it seems)
    should i change the water now to bring down nitrates? Is this level dangerous for a betta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slug61 View Post

    should i change the water now to bring down nitrates? Is this level dangerous for a betta?
    Yes & Yes.

    How did your TrAtes get so high? When [& what %] was your last water change?
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    I assume TSS is Tetra SafeStart? you need to do a big water change to bring down the nitrates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goes to 11! View Post
    Yes & Yes.

    How did your TrAtes get so high? When [& what %] was your last water change?
    With TSS (Tetra SafeStart) you don't do any water changes until you are cycled.(It usually takes 2 weeks) It looks like for me was 8 days. So, it's been 8 days without a change.

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    With such a small tank, you should be taking out most of the water (leave enough for the fish to swim in) and take another reading after replacing the water (making sure to add dechlorinator) - if needed, change the water again to make sure the nitrates are down to 20ppm or less.

    In general, most forum members will recommend keeping a betta in nothing smaller than a 5gal tank - they too need room to swim - water quality can become poor very quickly in such a small tank - just my 2 cents. I know small tanks are marketed for bettas, but that doesn't mean they are happy in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slug61 View Post
    With TSS (Tetra SafeStart) you don't do any water changes until you are cycled.(It usually takes 2 weeks) It looks like for me was 8 days. So, it's been 8 days without a change.
    I cycled my 75 gal with TSS. If you still have 0 ammonia and 0 nitrites, then you need to lower the nitrates with a water change.
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    I retested this morning. I have not done a water change yet.
    I now have over 20ppm nitrate but under 40ppm.
    Should i leave it a few more days like TSS recommends?

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    I recommend a 50 percent wc as soon as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodm81 View Post
    I recommend a 50 percent wc as soon as possible.
    Now, i'm really confused.....i have asked the same question on 3 diff. boards and am getting many different responses.
    Some say do w/c immediately, some say wait until the 14 days are up(TSS recommends this), and some say that level is OK
    If i do a 50% change, will it disrupt the cycle since it has not been 14 days...only 8.

    HELP??!!
    Last edited by slug61; 04-18-2013 at 03:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slug61 View Post
    Now, i'm really confused.....i have asked the same question on 3 diff. boards and am getting many different responses.
    Some say do w/c immediately, some say wait until the 14 days are up(TSS recommends this), and some say that level is OK
    If i do a 50% change, will it disrupt the cycle since it has not been 14 days...only 8.

    HELP??!!
    I would call Tetra customer service, 1-800-526-0650, option 1 and give them your results. Maybe because you have such a small tank, it cycled in 8 days. My 75 gal cycled in 13 days. My understanding is (even when cycling with TSS), if your results are 0/0/20, you are cycled and should do the water change to bring down the nitrates. That's what I did.
    Last edited by gronlaura; 04-18-2013 at 04:00 PM.
    My 75 gal Journal & My Dual 29 gal Journal
    My 75 gal - Gold Pristella Tetras, Scissortail Rasboras, Neon Dwarf Rainbowfish, Longfin Leopard & Zebra Danios, Bristlenose Pleco
    My Dual 29 gals - Left Tank - Diamond Tetras. Right Tank - Amano Shrimp

    "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....it's about learning to dance in the rain"

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