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Thread: Nitrates up

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    Well I did my weekly water check. My ammonia was slightly elevated, and my nitrates had really jumped. So far, I've done 2 water changes. One yesterday afternoon & the newest one about midday. the first with a regular dechlorinator/slime coat and the second with Prime added. Any port in a storm.

    I think the cause is overfeeding. Yes, the goldies beg and I'm 'stupid'. Well and at times, I put in the pellets to make sure the s.a. bumblebee cats get something. I'm thinking on going to feeding every 2 days (be strong, gotta be strong). And yep, gonna recheck in the morning and do another water change.

    I know there are nitrate reducing products, binders...but I'm doing my best to avoid them. The fish? well they all seem to be alright...so far.


    Anything else I might do?

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    Hi
    Good for you for keeping up on your water changes. How much water are you changing out when you make a water change?
    Is this an established tank and if so, for how long?
    Or are you doing a fish in cycle? If so, how long have you been at it?
    Also what size is your tank (how many gallons), what fish do you have stocked (numbers also please) and what filtration do you have running? What are you using to test your water perimeters? Also, please post your exact numbers for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates so we'll know what elevated means.
    All of this will help determine if there is something more you could be doing.

    Note: any time ammonia approaches .50ppm you need to do an immediate water change of at least 50%. 75% would be better. Nitrates of 20.ppm or more also require a large water change.
    Last edited by fishmommie; 04-13-2013 at 08:51 PM.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    It's been going pretty well since December. I started it with cycled water from my oustide 'pond'. "officially' the volume should be 28-29 gal; but i figure displacement. So usually I'm pumping out 5 gallons, these last 2 times it's been about 10 gallons. Did one yesterday midday and one today

    I currently have my goldfish, overwintered from the 90 gallon patio 'pond'(I will be honest-they have grown to about 4 inches each), 2 south american bumblebee catfish, and 2 small algae eaters. When the outside pond is cycled the goldies are getting moved. I'm running an established Tetra 20/40 filter and now a Penguin 200 BioWheel (that's been on for about 2 weeks).

    Numbers: Ph, 8; Ammonia .25; Nitrites 0; Nitrates were like 80. I'm using the API liquid test....not the strips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mommabear View Post
    It's been going pretty well since December. I started it with cycled water from my oustide 'pond'.
    I'm sorry to tell you that moving water from a cycled tank does not make your aquarium cycled. Only filter media from a filter in a fully cycled tank makes a tank instantly cycled. So - you've been cycling this tank since Dec. I think you got lucky that your fish made it through while your tank cycled.


    "officially' the volume should be 28-29 gal; but i figure displacement. So usually I'm pumping out 5 gallons, these last 2 times it's been about 10 gallons. Did one yesterday midday and one today
    if you are running a 29 gallon tank with goldfish, you really need to be changing out 50 to 75% of your water a minimum of once a week. that little bit you're changing is not going to do it which is apparent from the increased nitrates. 80 is dangerously high. I suspect the small water changes are why you're seeing some ammonia as well. Goldfish produce a ton of waste. To get them through until you can get them back in your big tank, I highly advise to increase the volume and frequency of your water changes or you're going to lose your goldies to nitrate poisoning.
    I hope they survive until you can move them back to the 90 gallon tank. A 29 is WAY too small for the stock you have. Understand that you needed to bring them in for the winter but next year, best get a much bigger tank to tide them over - like a minimum of a 75 gallon.


    I currently have my goldfish, overwintered from the 90 gallon patio 'pond'(I will be honest-they have grown to about 4 inches each), 2 south american bumblebee catfish, and 2 small algae eaters. When the outside pond is cycled the goldies are getting moved.
    Just curious -- How do you plant to cycle the 90 so it's ready when you move them back outside?

    I'm running an established Tetra 20/40 filter and now a Penguin 200 BioWheel (that's been on for about 2 weeks).

    Numbers: Ph, 8; Ammonia .25; Nitrites 0; Nitrates were like 80. I'm using the API liquid test....not the strips.
    Good luck. Get those nitrates down with the increased water changes. you're shooting for 20ppm or less.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    Well the 29 gal was supposed to be a 35 gallon... that's what the classified read. And it was a stop gap measure because the filter was freezing up on my outside system... and until I pulled all the water out, I couldn't pull that equipment. Next winter they're going to spend in the patio tank. I'm in Oklahoma and they can survive just fine...it was the equipment that was compromised at the time. After I brought them in, bought them the aquarium... our winter eased up. I shoulda put money on that. lol

    At this point, I'm doing fishless cycling of the outside pond/aquarium. Shrimp method. The ammonia is reducing, and it's now producing nitrates. so it's making progress.
    "Doing what I can, as I can"

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    You sure are!
    Good job and good luck.
    Start making those big water changes on a weekly or more often basic and you be able to tide them over until you can get them back where they belong.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    Well, I checked just now. No ammonia now... wheww. Nitrates showing the same. I'll check in the morning. And do a 50% change again. Gonna fill my rain barrel really quick at this rate. Figure it can't hurt my plants

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    I use old fish tank water for all my house plants and outside plants. they look GREAT!

    Oh - and you're right about something else too. Try not to feed them so much. It's my understanding that goldies need fed often because of their odd digestive system, but little bits at a time will also help with those nitrates.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    I'll try it all and keep you posted. Might take a bit of time. Tell me, how does a person clean around 'decorations' that the fish have decided to live within? I don't want to disturb the cats too much...but I know they hide in the 'legs' of a decoration. will it harm them to move it around, disturb them

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    Just move the decorations slowly and they will be fine, be prepared for them to startle and swim out, always makes me jump a little when they do this. You need to siphon the gunk out of the gravel and clean it well, that is one of the biggest contributors to the nitrates in the tank in a situation like this. I would also suggest at least two and maybe three 50-75% water changes a week while the fish are in that tank. Catfish and goldfish are big waste producers and will dirty a tank quick. Test the water daily for a while and when the nitrates are over 20ppm do a big water change.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
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    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
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