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    geesh i thought this would have already been compiled but any ways:
    with the ever slim budgets we give our selves fro starting fish tanks, substrates can easily break the bank. heres a list of some that can be used in aquariums with good luck.

    black diamond sand blasting grit 8$/50# bag.
    *cat litter non sented or treated please so many choices prices could be 8$+/40#
    Safe-t-sorb 8$/50# bag
    Floramax 9$/15# bag or 10$ /12# bag (this is the black) *petsmart online pricing*
    turface pro league (price not certain and varies sorry) details here: http://www.turface.com/turface-produ...ace-pro-league
    oil-dri ~10$/20# bag
    pool filter sand ~8$/50# bag
    play sand ~4$/50# bag
    "aquarium" sand/gravel ~20$/20# bag
    eco-complete sand/gravel ~23$/20# bag (off sale)
    seachem flourite ~20$/20# bag (off sale)
    organic potting soil. varies.


    sand that inert from the list:
    black diamond
    safe-t-sorb
    oil-dri
    pool fitler/play sand
    "aquarium" sand/gravel"
    cat litter

    might contain nutrients for plants:
    cat litter (depends on what you buy)
    turface pro league
    organic potting soil

    made for planted tank:
    floramax
    eco complete.
    seachem flourite


    please note that just because you use an inert substrate doesnt mean you cant plant. you might just need to use root tabs (depending on the plant)
    also all aquarium substrates should be rinsed before adding them into a tank. some more than others.

    *cat litter. this can be both inert and has some nutrients for plants. make sure you arent using anything that has been treated for scents or anything like that. flourite based cate litters can be cheap and great for plants (as good as flourite from seachem). do your research on what brand you use before you use it please*

    hopes this helps every one with their choices in aquarium substrates.

    BTW these are the more common ones ive come across from reading/using there are most likely more.

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    Also, Quikrete Commercial Grade Medium Sand (bag is tan and green) from Home Depot - $4.27 for 50 lbs. It is very light colored and looks really nice. No washing necessary.
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    Bag of white sand from menards, 3$. 50 lbs

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    I wouldn't really consider safe-t-sorb, oil-dri, or cat littler to be truly inert, even if they don't have any nutrients to begin with. The reason being that they have a high CEC (cation exchange capacity) which allows them to absorb nutrients, making them great for planted tanks. You can soak them in a nutrient solution before placing them in a tank so that the nutrients are immediately available to the plant roots, or you can just add them right away and they'll absorb nutrients from the water column. This won't happen with truly inert substrates like aquarium gravel or play sand.

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    Sorry for the confusion i was trying to say they didnt have nutrients from the start. Tho some cat litter is flourite based and has good nutrients
    KING OF THE GOLD BARBS RAWR!!!!
    I wonder if i plant one of my tiger barbs would the demon seed grow to a full tree?
    gotta love them bunnies!
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    No need to apologize, my info was merely an add-on Great list btw. I'm sure this will help many newbies interested in setting up a planted tank. I'm sure many people get deterred when they start seeing all the costs involved for adding plants.

    I personally like to mix plant-substrates with inert to save some money, so in my setup I have 80# eco-complete and 50# blasting sand. That way I can get the height I need and still have some high-CEC substrate for the heavy root feeders. Root tabs are good to use because the eco-complete will absorb the nutrients and allow a slow release for the plants, but many plants are fine simply pulling nutrients from the water column.

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    I just changed my 29 gallon from pool filter sand to oil dri. Rinsed it in a tote and multiple times every day and let soak overnights in between and last soak i added liquid ferts to the water it was soaking in. The color out of the bag was too light but after soaking it turned a very natural color. My water was cloudy for about six hours but looks very nice this morning. This is a new adventure with me a i did alot of researching before using oil dri. I wish i had a camera, but so far am pleased. There was a slight ph drop from 7.8 to 7.6 overnight. Will test again when i get off work this evening.

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    I just finished last night setting up my African tank in the living room from a river rock gravel to a full stocked tank with Black Diamond Grinding sand. My biggest problem was locating it. I had to go to a farm supply place way out of my way to get it. Unwashed, in tank it looks better than the $50 bag I got a few years ago of pool filter sand that was colored black. From ease of use and its overall look I really support Black Diamond Sand.

    Also I have used play sand from home depot with no issues. The only thing to watch is the size of grain. There is a course ground sand that is better than just general sand. Its 4.93 here and is a nice tan color compared to the $3 for the general play sand.
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    I think this is a good list to sticky!
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    I don't.
    A sticky reflects on the forum and IMO should look like it was written by someone familiar with capital letters. It is NOT too much to ask. [For starters]

    Moving on.
    Why have play sand on the list when you incorrectly identify it as differing only in,y grain consistency? It's FAR dirtier and a massively labor intensive PITA to clean. I wouldn't use it or suggest it. Actually.. Would anyone recommend it?

    I am not certain you have ever used black diamond since you previously referred to a medium grade [It is graded in #] and also said it comes in three sizes when it clearly shows 5 grades in the picture of the bag of it I posted.
    All 5 grades come in the exact same bag btw & they are just marked according to what grade they are. So I am not exactly sure what you are talking about there.

    BTW - Turface has a website that will find their nearest dealer in NA .. Really.

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