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    Hey folks!

    I'm an absolute noob to the forums as well as to the hobby.

    I recently became interested in aquariums after seeing some different setups (giant saltwater reef... small fluval planted desktop). I tend to jump into things I'm very interested in, but considering the amount of research and work that goes into a healthy aquarium environment, I've been taking my time. I did research for a few weeks, and finally purchased an aquarium Friday after work.

    I have a Marineland 20 gallon setup. I have it set up and running -- filter, heater, gravel, airstone, some decorations and artificial plants for now. I set this all up last night, took me three hours! I wasn't expecting that!!

    Anyway, everything seemed to be working well so I tested my water and began my fishless cycle today (with ammonia from Ace). The heater is set warm (low-mid 80s) and the air stone is on full blast (air pump rated for 40g). I'm keeping an Excel spreadsheet with my test results so that I don't lose track of what happened and what's going on now.

    There are still small things I need to do ... put a background on the tank, install a new thermometer (I don't trust the sticky one on the side of the tank). I actually have a floaty (mercury?) one and a digital one on the way. I ordered from Amazon for some of the less time-critical items, so I will have a little bit to do each day as the deliveries start rolling in.

    Fish? Man. That's where I'm really stumped!

    pH tested at about 7 today, and the water was "soft" .. not hard, not very soft, just a nice middle ground.

    I'm trying to avoid the tendency of beginners to want to overstock their tank. Already I see the allure of having a larger tank, and I can see my next step being a 55 gallon. (My friend has already called dibs on my 1-day-old 20 gallon tank... Like I'm going to give it up!)

    I've been using aqadvisor to generally look at temperature, pH, and other compatibility with different species of fish.

    My thoughts so far:
    - Start with a small school (~6-8?) of Cherry Barbs
    - Introduce a couple (~4?) ghost shrimp
    - Introduce a couple (3?) Silver Mollies (2 female, 1 male)
    - Introduce 2 German Blue Ram (my "showcase" fishies)

    And that's pretty much capacity. Filtration should be sufficient, but I can always pick up a second filter if needed. Introducing the species one at a time should help me prevent overcrowding. Aqadvisor says I'm fine, but I'd really like to see it for myself. Better than having to return fish to the store.

    There is a great local shop (not a petsmart or petco) where I can source all of those except the ghost shrimp. I will be stopping by to check them out -- see how well they maintain their tanks and how the interact with their customers as well as their fishies.

    And eventually, yes, I'll be upgrading to a larger tank. I just want to make sure 1) I have time for this; 2) I like it; 3) I'm good at it. So far though, I'm mesmerized by my fishless tank... So that probably covers the "liking it."

    Pretty sure I'm already an addict! When I find new hobbies I tend to latch on and go bigger and better. Thankfully the cycling process will keep me in check for the next month or so... :D

    Well, that was a novella. Thanks for reading!


    Also, I've been lurking for a while, reading, soaking it all in. I must say this seems to be the friendliest and most knowledgeable forum around for this type of community. Thanks for that!
    Last edited by adeline; 03-24-2013 at 02:56 AM.

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    Welcome! You definitely sound like you have done your research! You will get all the help you could ever need here from all these knowledgeable and generous members.
    46 gallon bow front planted - 6 Longfin Neon Rosy Barbs, 1 male Golden Sailfin Mollie, 6 Harlequin Rasboras, 4 Panda Corys, 1 German Blue Ram, 1 Apple snail.
    29 Gallon - mix of plastic and real plants - 1 Angel fish, 2 male fancy guppies, 2 German Blue Rams, 8 Neon Tetras, 2 Ottos.
    5 gallon Quarantine tank

    Read my journal here.
    Pictures of my 46 Gallon here.
    Picture of my 29 gallon here.

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    I wonder if i plant one of my tiger barbs would the demon seed grow to a full tree?
    gotta love them bunnies!
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    Welcome to the AC...
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    Thanks for the warm welcome folks!

    Looking at all the beautiful tanks folks around here have is very encouraging. I know we all started somewhere.

    My tank is currently planted with artificial, and I think it's very pretty (in my humble opinion!).. But I can definitely see the draw of having a planted tank. Like everything about this hobby, I'm trying, very patiently, to take this one step at a time. I think trying to keep thriving plants is an added step I should take later. Possibly in my next tank.

    I was considering asking a LFS to sell/give me some filter material or substrate to help get my tank cycled... And then I remembered my coworker has several tanks. I might ask him if he has anything at all to spare. He has the small fluval tank at work (with a couple neon tetras, ghost shrimp, and some strange looking frogs!), and while it's too small for my tastes, I think it's pretty cute. I drilled him for information a couple weeks back, and he didn't seem to understand the point of fishless cycling. But I'm sure I can talk him into parting with something....

    Otherwise it's just the testing and waiting game!

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    Love seeing an intro like this. Bravo for researching and planning your tank so thoroughly. Your future fish will thank you for it.

    I like AqAdvisor to a point, but I found out that some of the temps for their fish and other info listed are wrong. Now that you have narrowed it down to some specific types of fish that you like, you'll find the profiles at Seriouslyfish.com to be very detailed and they will help you better understand the environment your fish will thrive in the most.

    Watch in....in a couple months time you'll have a wealth of knowledge about tanks and your coworker friend will be coming to you for advice :)
    ~Manna
    10 gallon live planted aquarium with 6 neons
    90 gallon fw community in progress

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    Also, I know that real plants seem like quite an undertaking, but here's my two cents on that.

    When I first inherited my tank it had bright pink gravel, a fake rock cave and 3 or 4 plastic artificial plants. I thought it was pretty cool looking, but further reading made me realize that the bright pink gravel was not the preferred substrate of choice for my fish. I ended up swapping it out for black aquarium sand, which I liked much better. Then I went and got driftwood because I thought it was prettier than the fake rock cave. After making those two transformations I realized that I might as well just throw in some live plants and see how they did. I went to the fish store and bought an Anubias, Java Fern and an Amazon Sword and a bottle of Seachem Flourish fertilizer.

    I threw them all in the tank and they took off! The java ferns grew new baby plants and the sword got so big I had to cut it down for it to stay in my tank. I was pleased about how easy it actually was to plant!

    Here's the kicker.....my fish look 10x better with the real plants in there than they did with the fake. Their colors pop brightly against the green vegetation. I don't know why, my fake plants were green too, but it literally seemed like their colors became more vibrant and they really seem to enjoy the plants, as weird as that sounds.
    ~Manna
    10 gallon live planted aquarium with 6 neons
    90 gallon fw community in progress

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