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02-02-2013, 05:57 PM #1
Blue Rams Fighting
My blue rams are fighting alot, could it be because i reduced their food to once a day for my tank to finish cycling? they are 2 females its a 29 gallon, i would say medium amount of plants, a rock shelf, and a pot thing, their a pic on my page. Any help would be great! i know their cichlids but im a beginner so i posted here lol29 Gallon: 7 Neon Tetras, 5 Glowlight Tetras, 2 Pleco, and 2 German Blue Rams!!
02-02-2013, 06:18 PM #2
Cycling tanks are stressful.
- What are your parameters? When was your last water change?
Feed reduction if you were feeding adequately before with no leftovers could be a contributing factor.
- Are they fighting mostly at feeding time or other times? Was there an issue of extra food or are you now underfeeding them?
The amount of cover and individual territory space is a factor especially with the type of fish you have chosen.
02-02-2013, 06:30 PM #3
Im about to do a water change right now, my nitrites are high but went down dramatically after my last WC yes their was left over food usually but my pleco usually came out and got the rest off the ground (along with the rams pecking here and there). it seems like one will go out of its way (across the tank) to go after the other. the picture is also my avatar. (added two moss balls sense then)29 Gallon: 7 Neon Tetras, 5 Glowlight Tetras, 2 Pleco, and 2 German Blue Rams!!
02-03-2013, 04:48 AM #4
i'll just agree with what was said.
blue rams are the wrong fish to cycle with. they are not hardy enough to go through such a thing.
but after digging for your picture, you don't have adequate "barriers" for the two rams.
cycling with sensitive fish doesnt go well, can cause aggression
2 males will do this, but i'm not set on your knowing the true sex of the fish.
plus in your picture, you have an angel...angel and rams don't mix well in a tank that small
02-03-2013, 05:23 AM #5
02-03-2013, 05:53 AM #6
rams like dense planting with lots of hiding holes and normally aggression comes from males with territory How are you so sure you have female?4ft mbuna mangaino and yellows
4ft rainbow tank
4ft planted community
16g nano planted shrimp and neon tetras
10g nano reef
02-03-2013, 06:08 AM #7
029 Gallon: 7 Neon Tetras, 5 Glowlight Tetras, 2 Pleco, and 2 German Blue Rams!!
02-03-2013, 06:19 AM #8
I had 2 GB rams in my 29 gal - one, I thought was a female and one a male. turned out to be 2 males. I had adequate sight barriers and hiding holes and yet the larger of the two nipped at the other one's tail mercilessly. before I realized how bad it had gotten, the tail was in shreds. I had to home them in 2 different tanks. fortunately both are mature tanks and they both survived and the tail on the smaller on (which eventually totally fell off) grew back.
Moral of this story is: if you have aggression now it's most likely only going to get worse. And the difficulties of having rams in a cycling tank are huge because they are so sensitive. Your angels dying was most likely due to high ammonia and or nitrites. You need to be testing daily with an API liquid kit and any time the ammonia and nitrites approach .50 do a 50% water change. If you do you may save the remaining fish. But, you most likely need to get one of those rams out of there asap.
Until you can do that, try rearranging the landscape so if territories have been established, they might get busy figuring out a new territory and leave each other alone for a while. and add more barriers for them to hide in or behind. leave the lights out to help calm also could help.
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02-03-2013, 07:02 AM #9
02-03-2013, 01:45 PM #10
couldn't have said it better fishmommie.
to the OP: i was in the same boat with understanding barriers in aquariums.
check out scottishfish's photo album in the the pictures thread-specifically page 4, where he shows a picture his entire tank.
that's a prime example of how to properly get barriers in the tank.
i'm currently setting up my 40b to mimic that as ill have multiple dwarf cichlids in it.
but when i got my rams, i thought i had a m/f pair, turned out it was m/m and the smaller one killed the bigger one.
thats the thing about rams-they still are cichlids and have that mentality.