My Poor Dojo Is Dying

**materbona** · 01-31-2013, 08:24 PM

Would anything like Pimafix or Melafix help the upside down problem? I did order the Prazi pro but will be a few days getting here. Thanks

**Honey Badger 1** · 01-31-2013, 08:59 PM

Your dojo is probably suffering from all the crap you have been dumping in the tank, adding another medication (prazipro) to the list is not going to help. Mermaids advice is some of the worst advice I have seen on this forum, you don't medicate just to medicate because it will make you feel better. There is never an "if you must", you either have to or don't, no if. Prazipro is for parasites, does the dojo have parasites? If not than Prazi Pro will not do a thing to help. No more meds for the dojo, he needs clean water. I'm glad to hear you found a filter for the tank, but if the filter is not cycled you still need to change water daily. If your friend is capable, give them instructions for a water change.

**AllenIsbell** · 01-31-2013, 11:11 PM

I'm sorry to hear about your Dojo.

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**materbona** · 02-01-2013, 12:22 AM

Thanks --how much of a change? for a 1 gal tank? Also-believe it or not, the clowns still have ich. I can't go the saltwater route because we can't stay home. So today late I use a remedy that had a clown loach on the package

**Honey Badger 1** · 02-01-2013, 01:14 AM

It's hard to say how much water to change without knowing the parameters. I think a generic 50% would work.

**mermaidwannabe** · 02-01-2013, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by mommy1

Your dojo is probably suffering from all the crap you have been dumping in the tank, adding another medication (prazipro) to the list is not going to help. Mermaids advice is some of the worst advice I have seen on this forum, you don't medicate just to medicate because it will make you feel better. There is never an "if you must", you either have to or don't, no if. Prazipro is for parasites, does the dojo have parasites? If not than Prazi Pro will not do a thing to help. No more meds for the dojo, he needs clean water.

I agreed that water changes were the best way to go. The "if you must medicate" meant ONLY if, after providing clean water, the problem still isn't resolved. I recall reading posts here where some very experienced aquarists have used Prazi-Pro to treat an entire tank when NOTHING ELSE HELPED. It has been touted as a safer medication than Maricyn and some others. I also stated in my advice that if she did the regular water changes and got the tank clean, she probably wouldn't have to medicate, at all.

Mommy, please don't pick and choose which parts of my advice you wish to quote out of context. That isn't fair, and you know it.

Further, I don't appreciate your accusing me of giving some of the worst advice on this forum. I read what the more experienced people post, and because I respect what they say, I often feel confident passing it along, as it teaches me something, as well. I also draw from my own experiences, and pass along what has worked for me in the spirit of helpfulness.

It isn't productive to tear people down. I've been silent and tolerant when you've done it to me in the past, but now, enough is enough.

I reiterate to the OP -- I agree that doing the water changes is the best way to go, and your dojo will greatly benefit. I never said otherwise. If that doesn't work, then careful, conservative dosing with a safer, milder medication MIGHT help. Or, it might not. I never said there was any guarantees. We do what we can, and try to do what's best.

Thank you.

**Honey Badger 1** · 02-01-2013, 02:33 AM

I did not quote you out of context. I merely pointed out a bad part of your post. You did not tell the OP to try water changes first then medicate, you merely paraphrased prior posts (as usual) then said if you must medicate, try PraziPro, which can be taken as meaning, if you feel you have to do something, then use this medication. Many experienced people here also say don't use preventative medication or medicate if you don't know what the problem is, why don't you paraphrase those people. There is no indication that the dojo has parasites, and PraziPro is an anti-parasitic medication and suggesting the OP dump in yet one more medication that is not going to help the problem is not useful advice.
I don't appreciate you trying to start a public argument with me and if you wish to further this discussion I suggest you pm me as arguing on the forum is against the rules and not productive for the OP's problems.