Spawning pair, not sure on gender?

[Lady Hobbs]

Well, if you have a mated pair, they will be spawning about every 18-20 days. Nothing new for them to eat their eggs after first spawns. I had my pair for a couple years and they ate "every" spawn. I could have moved the eggs but like you, did not want the babies. Babies require too darned many tanks.

If you do not want babies or fighting, then keeping one is just fine.

[FreakyFishie]

Oh they didn't eat the eggs, they all went white so I got rid of them. I didn't move my angels, they stayed in the community tank. They were actually very good parents to their batch of dud eggs :)

[funkman262]

Oh they didn't eat the eggs, they all went white so I got rid of them. I didn't move my angels, they stayed in the community tank. They were actually very good parents to their batch of dud eggs :)

Do you know for sure they were duds? When I had a breeding pair of angels (didn't intend to breed them) I remember the eggs being white.

[Indian Woods Angels]

The female matures earlier than the male. This helps to defer brother sister crosses in the wild. She won't mate with her brother if he is too young, this fosters diversity. In a captive setting it can take 3 to 6 spawns before the male becomes properly fertile. Many times he is just a poor aim. Sometimes he just does not have enough milt. You can look at the eggs with a magnifying glass and see the embryo develop within the egg casing. Sometimes there is just an over whelming amount of bacterium that might eat the precious egg fats. In this case the egg will be lost.

[FreakyFishie]

Do you know for sure they were duds? When I had a breeding pair of angels (didn't intend to breed them) I remember the eggs being white.

From what I've deducted from my extensive research, the infertile eggs or eggs that stop developing go white and the fertile still developing eggs are clear/translucent amber

[Nailroth]

i would not worry to much just let them spawn a few times and they will get the hang of it, getting a F/F pair is highly unlikely but can happen, i have 6 pairs of breeding angelfish but only one pair really gets any fry to survive most of the pairs only get 10-15 fertile eggs. the pair i have that has spawned the most are the best just a week ago they laid egg in the large tank were i keep all my angels (19 in total) with some catfishes and this pair acctualy got them to free swimming without a problem took them out since i would like to keep the fry. like most say here angels take long to really understand how to do it. A friend of mine has a pair he have had for over 6 years and have spawned countless times still eats the fry when they become wrigglers

[Goes to 11!]

Pictures are always helpful . The only 100% reliable way I know is by viewing the breeding tubes when spawning, Here's what to look for:

Male: Click here.

Female: Click here.

Picture source.

Good luck with your angels.