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  1. #1

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    I got a new goldfish. It went through quarantine without incident and was added to the main tank on Sunday. Yesterday (so three days later) I noticed a black discoloration on one of its gill covers. Today it is still there. I think the discoloration is larger but I'm not positive.


    My best guess at a diagnosis is ammonia burns. However I checked my water parameters and as usual they checked out good - 0/0/10.

    Is there a delay between when a fish is exposed to ammonia and when ammonia burns appear? Is it possible that this fish either overwhelmed the filter in the QT tank or caused a mini-cycle upon being added to the main tank, but the burn is only showing up a few days after the ammonia exposure ended? Or is it something else?
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    In my experience ammonia burn takes a while to appear. I think it is a bit like smoking where the damage doesn't surface until later. It may not even have been your tank. Goldfish aren't exactly treated like royalty in most pet stores...

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    +1 to the above

    I just found the below link.

    http://www.happy-goldfish.com/black_spot.php
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
    "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo
    Fishless Cycle Cycling with Fish Marine Aquarium Info [URL="http://saltwater.aquaticcommunity.com/"]

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    A lovely red rose for you to enjoy ... - mermaidwannabe for the help - smaug Happy Father's Day! - Aminax awesome tank in TOTM - Lady Hobbs Good guess! - Lab_Rat 
    To match your Super speed LOL - 850R Cool contest! - Wild Turkey Great shrimp advice - Wild Turkey You have the patience of a rock - Aeonflame Happy 5th Anniversary - Aminax 
    Thanks! - Scrup hmm i dont this its the right species... but merry xmas XD - genocidex Merry Christmas! I blub you! - Aminax I love following your informative and well designed threads. I hope these loaches get huge for you! - Sandz Happy 30th birthday! - Aminax 
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    thanks guys... guess that settles it. Should heal up on its own then.
    300 gallon mega tank: build in progress
    75 gallon community tank: tetras, danios, corys, platies, otos, pearl gouramis, bristlenose pleco, assassin snails, red cherry shrimp, bamboo shrimp
    70 gallon growout tank: clown loaches, sailfin pleco
    60 gallon goldfish tank: fancy goldfish
    29 gallon frog tank: 1 bullfrog
    10 gallon and 5.5 gallon betta tanks: 1 male betta each, sometimes snails

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    If there is ammonia burn the fish's gills are injuried as well; add an air stone, and consider a 1 tsp salt per ten gals of water for a few weeks (remember water changes require adding make up salt.) Do measure ammonia levels are zero - also, check for nitrites to play it safe. Remember, salt (small amounts) helps to protect from bacteria infection so can be useful as a general tonic. Salt will help damaged gills function better enabling the fish to get rid of waste from its blood even if the gills are harmed.
    Last edited by Cermet; 01-28-2013 at 12:11 PM.

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    When ammonia in fresh or saltwater reaches a toxic level sufficient enough, the surface areas of a fish's eyes, fins and gills are chemically "burnt", which causes the protective mucus from these surfaces to be removed. This then allows parts of the body to become exposed to deteriorate, which in turn primarily leads to external and/or internal bacterial infections. The occurance of fishes becoming ill from ammonia burns is most commonly associated with the following situations.

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    A lovely red rose for you to enjoy ... - mermaidwannabe for the help - smaug Happy Father's Day! - Aminax awesome tank in TOTM - Lady Hobbs Good guess! - Lab_Rat 
    To match your Super speed LOL - 850R Cool contest! - Wild Turkey Great shrimp advice - Wild Turkey You have the patience of a rock - Aeonflame Happy 5th Anniversary - Aminax 
    Thanks! - Scrup hmm i dont this its the right species... but merry xmas XD - genocidex Merry Christmas! I blub you! - Aminax I love following your informative and well designed threads. I hope these loaches get huge for you! - Sandz Happy 30th birthday! - Aminax 
    Merry Christmas - Cliff Thanks for you help! Cheers! - koaladarshana Happy Birthday Bud. Cheers! - Strider199 Merry Xmas! Ill drink to that! - Sandz Happy New Year! - jeffs99dime 
    Cancer - Epilepsy - Foster Care - Gynecological Cancer - Rett Syndrome - Brhino 

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    This thread's a couple months old now... however, for the record the black mark did eventually go away.

    Now I just have to deal with the little piggy gobbling up too much food and making himself floaty.
    300 gallon mega tank: build in progress
    75 gallon community tank: tetras, danios, corys, platies, otos, pearl gouramis, bristlenose pleco, assassin snails, red cherry shrimp, bamboo shrimp
    70 gallon growout tank: clown loaches, sailfin pleco
    60 gallon goldfish tank: fancy goldfish
    29 gallon frog tank: 1 bullfrog
    10 gallon and 5.5 gallon betta tanks: 1 male betta each, sometimes snails

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