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01-19-2013, 10:52 PM #11
That's exactly what I had. Not good for much of anything, I'm afraid. Time to start shopping.
I say it like it's a bad thing, but good lights are just so wonderful when you have a tank full of healthy plants. It's just (as least it was for me) kinda ridiculous when you're trying to find a good light for your needs.
I thought T5s got too hot for my liking, so I went with LEDs. Nobody else seems to think T5s are too hot though, I guess I'm crazy. That's not a surprise.Beth
1 - 55 gallon planted community
3 - 10 to 20 gallon planted betta tanks
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01-20-2013, 12:50 AM #12
Yeah, it looks like I need an upgrade. Ironically, I just remembered today what I have had in my closet for 7 years and have been trying to sell on Craigslist every once in a while. Don't ask how - but I somehow acquired two 36" hoods with 3 bulb set ups. They were on a really big saltwater tank that someone I know had. So I removed the two lame bulb fixtures I currently have and just set one of the 36" 3 lamp fixtures on top of the tank. It obviously doesn't fit, but all three bulbs are shining through the plastic into the water.
The bulbs are Aqua Ray - F30WT8 - AR-FS 30W each. So there is 90W right now for my 55g. Much better than the 30W total I had earlier. I figure this is a good interim solution until I find the right upgrade. At least my plants will get adequate light and hopefully grow a little more and become greener.
So once I get the upgrade, anyone wanna buy 2 36" three bulb light fixtures? ;-)

55g planted tank -
Paradise Fish, Red Eye Tetras
Balloon Blue Ram, Cherry Barbs, Gold Barbs
Zebra Danios, Gold Zebra Danios
Peppered Cory Cats, Pictus Cats
Octo Cat, Siamese Algae Eaters, Mystery Snails
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01-20-2013, 03:40 AM #13
Like any respectable fish nerd ... You have a closet full of stuff ;-P
A guy with Mcgyver lighting on his 6' Oscar tank says... maybe [Although I am edging towards some ebay deals with free shipping for T5s] :-P.
Originally Posted by phatchuck
Last edited by Goes to 11!; 01-20-2013 at 03:42 AM.
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01-22-2013, 01:51 AM #14
Well, I went to the LFS and bought an upgrade. A 48" Solarmax H.O. High Output double T5 Lighting System. It has one T5 54W 10,000K Daylight lamp and one T5 Actinic-03 Lamp, and 8 Moonlight LED's.
So, from I can tell - for my freshwater purposes the Actinic bulb is essentially useless. (as well as the Moonlight LED's) Bit the price was right and I know I can replace the Actinic.
Any suggestions on what type of bulb to use to replace the Actinic? Or is the 10,000K 54W bulb adequate for a planted tank?

55g planted tank -
Paradise Fish, Red Eye Tetras
Balloon Blue Ram, Cherry Barbs, Gold Barbs
Zebra Danios, Gold Zebra Danios
Peppered Cory Cats, Pictus Cats
Octo Cat, Siamese Algae Eaters, Mystery Snails
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01-22-2013, 01:58 AM #15
I would suggest replacing them both with two 6700K bulbs.
Looks like that fixture was intended for a marine set-up. The Actinic bulb will do no good for your plants (as you have already stated), but might help more algae grow. The 10,000K bulb can also be risky as it is getting into the bluer color tones which can also promote algae growth.
I have always got the best results from 6700K bublsIf you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
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01-22-2013, 02:10 AM #16
i tried out the 10k bulb on my set up and honestly i didnt really get anything more out of it.
but i will say cliff is right that you risk getting algae, the 10kbulb is along the back wall. and that is where most of my algae growth is.
could be a coincidence, could be other factors. but might as well get your two 65/67k temp bulbs and sell the other 2. you'll break even that way
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01-22-2013, 02:17 AM #17
+ 1 to that being set up for SW.
6700K is ideal [It's spectrum is roughly equivalent to daylight at sea-level] although mixing a 10000K & 6700 isn't the end of the world.
This has 54w each of 10000K and 6700K over it :-D, I can't complain:

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01-22-2013, 01:21 PM #18
Thanks 850R - Based on that pic I think I'll keep the 10,000K and grab a 6,700K. I can only hope my tank will look that green! If I see the algae pick up I can always downgrade the 10,000K or get an algae eating fish.
Originally Posted by 850R
Thanks again for the input from all of you guys. Much appreciated.

55g planted tank -
Paradise Fish, Red Eye Tetras
Balloon Blue Ram, Cherry Barbs, Gold Barbs
Zebra Danios, Gold Zebra Danios
Peppered Cory Cats, Pictus Cats
Octo Cat, Siamese Algae Eaters, Mystery Snails
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01-23-2013, 03:25 AM #19
To play devils advocate, I had a good deal of success with 10000K bulbs over freshwater. But I also had an oversized pleco... so...
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01-23-2013, 08:51 PM #20
A 10,000k lamp is well within "daylight" for most plants. It will be whiter light than ~6500k. My personal favorite K rating lamp was the old GE 9325s. Nice white that didn't wash out the color of the fish.
Your opinion of the way your fish and plants look is more important that the ratings of the lamps.
What you may run into, if your nutrients are out of balance, is algae, no matter what lamps you use as two 54 watt lamps is a LOT of light on a 55g tank. If you find that is the case, a layer or two of fiber glass window screening will cut the light getting into the tank.





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