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  1. #1

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    Cliff, I will be attempting breeding but I want to start with 2in fish and perfect my rearing and growth habbits with the fish I get. I have all these tanks that so many new projects are in mind.

    On softening water... I was thinking of getting a 300gallon container and aireating the water in a big mulch of peat and oak leaves that are all around this time of year. Do you guys think that the chemical softening and tannic acids will take effect enough for dialy water changes to happen?
    FW: 1 45gal, 1 40gal, 3 10gal, 3 30gal all community tanks of different species
    Sw: 1 55gal, 1 30gal show, 1 29gal show, 1 20gal and 2 10's

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    It will soften the water daily but the question is: by how much. The initial 300 gallons may be softer than the ones to come and so on. Peat is a great way to soften your water but IMO it doesn't yield a stable result. From what I've read and learnt from Discus breeders I've spoken too, if you have liquid rock the best option is to get an RO system. You can either mix an ro/tap water ratio to achieve your desired levels or use a product like Kents essentials to reconstitute your RO water. An RO system really isn't that costly, I can suggest several great companies if you're interested. Personally I haven't began to breed them yet but I did all the necessary research into the RO etc. Also with two inch fish you're going to be doing a lot of feeding and water changes, I'm talking about at least one 90-100% daily for optimum growth so consistency is the key and once again IMO you can't get that with peat.

    Edit: I just saw your signature, you have SW tanks, you're good to go.
    Last edited by mojosodope; 01-15-2013 at 03:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandz
    Cliff, I will be attempting breeding but I want to start with 2in fish and perfect my rearing and growth habbits with the fish I get. I have all these tanks that so many new projects are in mind.
    Sounds like a fun project

    I'm sorry but I have never kept or raised discus so I'm afraid I can not be of much help with that.

    But I am looking forward to reading of your progress.
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
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  4. #4

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    Thanks for the help and advice - Slaphppy7 My turn to buy - fishmommie It's EOTW Beer Time! - KevinVA Nobody likes to drinl alone :) - steeler58 Back at you,  good sir! - Compass 
    Here's to Lee's 5000 and Guava Flavored Whiskey! - Taurus Why drink alone, when a Sandz is nearby? - KevinVA Sorry to hear of your loss, it always sucks to lose fish. - mommy1 Wish it was a real one, sorry for your loses :( - steeler58 So sorry about your fish! - SeaLady 
    Here is pie. - mommy1 for the one you lost :o( - fishmommie No Message - Fishhook Bottoms up! - Slaphppy7 Thanks, this one is on me - mommy1 
    Here's to 4,000 posts :) - steeler58 T.G.I.F.! - Slaphppy7 TGIF and here's to good whiskey :-) - Taurus Thanks for the rep :) - rebecca_finny pizza for all.  I finished my book today!!! - fishmommie 

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    And I totally name flubbed, SORRY! Cermet is who I was reffering too though I always love your input Cliff!
    FW: 1 45gal, 1 40gal, 3 10gal, 3 30gal all community tanks of different species
    Sw: 1 55gal, 1 30gal show, 1 29gal show, 1 20gal and 2 10's

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    Thanks for the help and advice - Slaphppy7 My turn to buy - fishmommie It's EOTW Beer Time! - KevinVA Nobody likes to drinl alone :) - steeler58 Back at you,  good sir! - Compass 
    Here's to Lee's 5000 and Guava Flavored Whiskey! - Taurus Why drink alone, when a Sandz is nearby? - KevinVA Sorry to hear of your loss, it always sucks to lose fish. - mommy1 Wish it was a real one, sorry for your loses :( - steeler58 So sorry about your fish! - SeaLady 
    Here is pie. - mommy1 for the one you lost :o( - fishmommie No Message - Fishhook Bottoms up! - Slaphppy7 Thanks, this one is on me - mommy1 
    Here's to 4,000 posts :) - steeler58 T.G.I.F.! - Slaphppy7 TGIF and here's to good whiskey :-) - Taurus Thanks for the rep :) - rebecca_finny pizza for all.  I finished my book today!!! - fishmommie 

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    Mojo: Yeah I run SW so I know enough to be dangerous. On w/c and water R/o units: if thats all I need then Im golden. I have a reliable source of R/O water (my grandfathers house has one in line with the tap system) and I would love to know a reliable one that consistantly either for Aquariums can be put in line or can be put on a trash can or water barel to get me a 55-75gal a day ratio.

    I have done a lot of research over the past several years and had breeding discus in Portland 7.4ph. I just need to get my current stuff below 8!
    FW: 1 45gal, 1 40gal, 3 10gal, 3 30gal all community tanks of different species
    Sw: 1 55gal, 1 30gal show, 1 29gal show, 1 20gal and 2 10's

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    If you really want to you can breed in water over 8, TDS is what comes to play when it comes to breeding honestly. Once your 2 inch fish mature and hopefully some proven pairs form, they will lay the eggs but the harder the water is the less time the sperm has to penetrate the egg sack, therefore your wriggler count will be much higher in softer water/ low tds. Note to grow out discus, it has been proven that they grow faster in water with a higher mineral (tds) count. Lower TDS is for breeding pretty much but I'm just stating this in case you don't already know.

    Based on my research the two best companies I found for RO units are:
    http://www.buckeyefieldsupply.com
    http://www.bulkreefsupply.com

    The only thing you have to be wary of is your seasonal tap water changes. If you're going to be mixing with RO you may have to adjust your ro/tap water ratio according to your tap water. That's my biggest worry so when the time comes to set up my breeding tank I might consider using Kent's essentials.

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  7. #7

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    Thanks for the help and advice - Slaphppy7 My turn to buy - fishmommie It's EOTW Beer Time! - KevinVA Nobody likes to drinl alone :) - steeler58 Back at you,  good sir! - Compass 
    Here's to Lee's 5000 and Guava Flavored Whiskey! - Taurus Why drink alone, when a Sandz is nearby? - KevinVA Sorry to hear of your loss, it always sucks to lose fish. - mommy1 Wish it was a real one, sorry for your loses :( - steeler58 So sorry about your fish! - SeaLady 
    Here is pie. - mommy1 for the one you lost :o( - fishmommie No Message - Fishhook Bottoms up! - Slaphppy7 Thanks, this one is on me - mommy1 
    Here's to 4,000 posts :) - steeler58 T.G.I.F.! - Slaphppy7 TGIF and here's to good whiskey :-) - Taurus Thanks for the rep :) - rebecca_finny pizza for all.  I finished my book today!!! - fishmommie 

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    I have not once measured TDS in the past so thanks for that info. On the RO/DI, I think these are both in my price range to get me 150 gpd. Well worth it over time.
    FW: 1 45gal, 1 40gal, 3 10gal, 3 30gal all community tanks of different species
    Sw: 1 55gal, 1 30gal show, 1 29gal show, 1 20gal and 2 10's

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