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  1. #11

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    I ALWAYS put the bioedia after the mechanical filtration and here is my rationale for that.

    If the biomedia is first, Every bit of particulate matter [or any matter at all] that your filter picks up gets slammed into your biomedia and immediately starts clogging the microscopic pores that the BB live in. This obviously lowers/limits the BB capacity of the media which ultimately undermines the efficiency of your filter.

    It's counterproductive to do it that way IMO.

    I always have the mechanical filtration [Sponges/floss] first to remove that particulate matter in an attempt to maintain the purity of my BB colonys house. Obviously it funks up over time but I see no point in putting it directly in the line of fire - So to speak.

    I haven't seen a more logical rationale for doing it the other way round yet, YMMV.
    My GF calls me insincere... I pretend to care.
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    I have sponges before Bio rings in my sump. My Ehiem canister was course sponge/fine sponge/bio and that worked so that's how I set up my sump.

    Hope this helps.

    I'm sure others will pitch in

    I got Ninja'd by 850R
    Last edited by scotchbonneteater; 01-09-2013 at 08:53 PM.
    1) 140 gallon with 70 gallon sump. 30 neons , 8 white cloud mountain minnows,, 10 Schwarzi cory, 10 julii cory 12 harlequin rasbora, 10 Hengals Rasbora,2 Bulldog Plecs, 2 Bristle nosed plec's and loads of assasin snails. internal 1000 filter + external Fluval 406, fluval U2 to transfer to my QT when needed
    2) 70gallon, and 15 penguin and 12 red eye tetra with an Enheim pro filter.
    3) 20 gallon QT
    4) algae rock tank, with about 10 bulldog fry


  3. #13

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    Ceramic noodles should be where the cleanest water goes through it. In other words, the top.
    Cycling With Fish?•• The Fishless Cycle••
    Goldfish Growth Expectancy••

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  4. #14

    Exclamation Scotch - & I type slowly too :-P

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Hobbs
    Ceramic noodles should be where the cleanest water goes through it.
    +1


    I meant to include this exact phrase in my post actually, You always want the cleanest water possible going through your bio-media.
    My GF calls me insincere... I pretend to care.
    Think about how stupid the average person is and then realize that half of them are stupider than that.~George Carlin.
    It's not that great.~Otto Rohwedder. My optimistic pessimism is tempered with pessimistic optimism.
    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.~Aldous Huxley.

    “Always go too far, Because that's where you'll find the truth” ~ Albert Camus

  5. #15

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    Guess you can tell I do not read every post? LOL
    Cycling With Fish?•• The Fishless Cycle••
    Goldfish Growth Expectancy••

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    George Bernard Shaw"

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    850R - It takes me 10 minutes to wind up the brain cells
    1) 140 gallon with 70 gallon sump. 30 neons , 8 white cloud mountain minnows,, 10 Schwarzi cory, 10 julii cory 12 harlequin rasbora, 10 Hengals Rasbora,2 Bulldog Plecs, 2 Bristle nosed plec's and loads of assasin snails. internal 1000 filter + external Fluval 406, fluval U2 to transfer to my QT when needed
    2) 70gallon, and 15 penguin and 12 red eye tetra with an Enheim pro filter.
    3) 20 gallon QT
    4) algae rock tank, with about 10 bulldog fry


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    Oh and any fine floss/carbon should go last I believe.
    1) 140 gallon with 70 gallon sump. 30 neons , 8 white cloud mountain minnows,, 10 Schwarzi cory, 10 julii cory 12 harlequin rasbora, 10 Hengals Rasbora,2 Bulldog Plecs, 2 Bristle nosed plec's and loads of assasin snails. internal 1000 filter + external Fluval 406, fluval U2 to transfer to my QT when needed
    2) 70gallon, and 15 penguin and 12 red eye tetra with an Enheim pro filter.
    3) 20 gallon QT
    4) algae rock tank, with about 10 bulldog fry


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    All great info guys, Thanks again.

    So this is what I did tonight - I think it will work, but feel free to offer feedback.

    I did a PWC tonight and rinsed out my two filter pad inserts that have the carbon inside, in the tank water I drained out. (Running an Aqueon 75 filter) I placed (sort of jammed) an AquaClear BioMax ceramic ring filter insert in front of the pad that is closest to the water outlet. I got the one for up to a 50 gallon tank since the 70 gallon insert did not look like it would fit. There isn't too much space in front of the two pads and their plastic Bio cages. I also put some filter fiber (bought a 4 oz. bag that will last forever) in between the two pads and their Bio cages to add some additional filtration surface area. The added stuff in the filter doesn't seem to be impeding the flow of water since nothing is going through the bypass area.

    The only thing I'm not sure about is if it is OK to put the filter fiber where I did, especially since it is not actually contained in a bag or vessel. I basically stuffed some in the space between the pad and the cage.


    55g planted tank -
    Paradise Fish, Red Eye Tetras
    Balloon Blue Ram, Cherry Barbs, Gold Barbs
    Zebra Danios, Gold Zebra Danios
    Peppered Cory Cats, Pictus Cats
    Octo Cat, Siamese Algae Eaters, Mystery Snails

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatchuck
    All great info guys, Thanks again.

    So this is what I did tonight - I think it will work, but feel free to offer feedback.

    I did a PWC tonight and rinsed out my two filter pad inserts that have the carbon inside, in the tank water I drained out. (Running an Aqueon 75 filter) I placed (sort of jammed) an AquaClear BioMax ceramic ring filter insert in front of the pad that is closest to the water outlet. I got the one for up to a 50 gallon tank since the 70 gallon insert did not look like it would fit. There isn't too much space in front of the two pads and their plastic Bio cages. I also put some filter fiber (bought a 4 oz. bag that will last forever) in between the two pads and their Bio cages to add some additional filtration surface area. The added stuff in the filter doesn't seem to be impeding the flow of water since nothing is going through the bypass area.

    The only thing I'm not sure about is if it is OK to put the filter fiber where I did, especially since it is not actually contained in a bag or vessel. I basically stuffed some in the space between the pad and the cage.
    Does anyone have any feedback on what I described above? I just want to make sure I haven't done anything I shouldn't.


    55g planted tank -
    Paradise Fish, Red Eye Tetras
    Balloon Blue Ram, Cherry Barbs, Gold Barbs
    Zebra Danios, Gold Zebra Danios
    Peppered Cory Cats, Pictus Cats
    Octo Cat, Siamese Algae Eaters, Mystery Snails

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