cool thanks every1...wicked excited to set it up
20 gallon- platies, dalmation mollies, cory cats, red belly x ray tetras,gourami, african dwarf frog
Ditto what mommy just said. I wouldn't add more fish yet, either. Make sure you aren't going to have an ammonia spike first. Next week should be fine to add a few more.
Why would he want to add ammonia to a tank when fish are going in there? I do agree with a bac booster but you do not use it with ammonia and you don't pour ammonia in a tank and then drop in fish. Perhaps you did not notice he is adding his fish right away?
Originally Posted by mojosodope
Yeah sorry I didn't notice he said he was going to add the fish right away. I just recommended the dr tims one and only and ammonia combination because I used it on two separate instances and my tank and pond were cycled in 3-4 days. Dr Tim's website also specifies the use of pure ammonia with the one and only, I can't speak for other bacteria boosters. I was just speaking from experience.
One would only add ammonia if starting over from scratch and wishing to do a fishless cycle. Fish would only then be added after the cycle is complete.
Since you are adding fish right away by simply transferring them to the larger tank, just transfer your current filter with its cycled media to your larger tank, and dechlorinate any new water you put into that tank. You should be fine with your current stock.
Adding new stock will require additional filtration.
An easy way to cycle the new, additional filter would be to scoop up some of the gravel from your already cycled older tank and put it into a NEW 100% nylon sock or stocking cut down to size, tie off the end, and place that between the new filter media in your new filter. This will help the new filter media cycle faster while your existing filter maintains the cycle from its current media.
Once the new bacteria colony is thriving in the new filter, you can remove the nylon sock and return the cycled gravel to the tank's substrate.
Adding Seachem's Stability according to the directions for its seven-day regimen will also help grow the new bacteria a little faster.
Test your water with the API freshwater master test kit so you know where you are, parameters-wise.
Here's another tip: You can grow an even larger colony of beneficial bacteria by removing the carbon from the filter and replacing it with additional biomedia. Carbon is only needed for removing medications or other toxic chemicals from the tank. If you aren't using any meds and there are no other toxic chemicals, you really don't need the carbon. The additional biomax will provide more surface for growing the bacteria you need.
Of course, the new bacteria will need to be fed, which means adding new stock gradually to the tank. If you maintain your current stock, you will only maintain enough bacteria to feed off its waste. Any additional bacteria would simply starve. That's why they're saying that if you don't plan to add anymore fish, your current filter transferred over by itself will be fine.
Your larger tank should be easier to maintain. Please post pictures when it's established and stocked.
20 gal. high: planted; 1 zebra danio, 6 glofish, several snails, 2 (visible) RCS; AC50, Azoo air. 65 gal: planted; 4 rosy barbs, 6 glofish, 5 white cloud minnows, 3 zebra danios, 5 dojo loaches, several snails; AC110 x 2.
Originally Posted by mermaidwannabe
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I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
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Well, once again I'm probably gonna tick some people off here. Look, your fish are used to the water in the 20. Do them a favor, put at least half the water from the 20 in the new tank and fill the rest of the way with Dechlorinated water. It will put them under less stress as the water will feel more natural to them. It'll also mitigate any Ph swing you might get. I disagree that merely transfering the filter will instantly cycle the tank and stock it with all it needs. There will be a lag there and the aged water from the 20 will help smooth things out for your fish.
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Not what I meant.If he's doing regular water changes the tank water won't be that dirty, more like it's seasoned 850. If the fish were doing fine in it it obviously is fine also. Tossing them into totally fresh water, with differing chemical compounds than what they're coming from WILL cause stress, how much is determined by the water parameters in both the tap and the tank.
Then there's the fact that completely new water will start a mini-cycle all over again, more stress. Or, is the OP gonna keep both running and do a 'Fishless-Cycle'? By using some of the water from the 20, all the Bacteria that eat Nitrites won't die off( The old water containing some), while the new water cycles and the other BB that eat Ammonia start to colonize. This would make the mini-cycle smaller and shorter in duration. Not to mention that, all the beneficial Bacteria in the Sponge and filter would starve to death before Nitrites appear in totally new water.