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  1. Default how do you know a sponge filter is cycled

    when it is grungy looking. I got a new sponge in my 75 soaking up the BB while I am in the process of setting up 20L betta/platy tank. So as title states, i mean it cant take as long as a filter in an un-cylced tank. I assume that it will cycle before it gets discolored by gunk. also a question to ponder, since i am using a cheap air pump; it is rated for 5 gallons and well the sponge is quite big. Will it take longer to cycle the sponge because less water is pulling through? should i get a air pump rated higher to get more suction so it filters more BB to cling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelfish11788
    when it is grungy looking. I got a new sponge in my 75 soaking up the BB while I am in the process of setting up 20L betta/platy tank. So as title states, i mean it cant take as long as a filter in an un-cylced tank. I assume that it will cycle before it gets discolored by gunk. also a question to ponder, since i am using a cheap air pump; it is rated for 5 gallons and well the sponge is quite big. Will it take longer to cycle the sponge because less water is pulling through? should i get a air pump rated higher to get more suction so it filters more BB to cling.
    Well, how does the pump perform? Does the pump have two outlets or just one? Are you only powering one bubbler with it? Are you getting a good amount of bubbles at a decent rate? It should probably take about 4 weeks to get a sponge filter cycled. I have 3 sponge filters in my 75gal. One's rated for 40 and two are rated for 10. The 10s are for QT swapping.
    Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
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    Yes to all questions. Except it only has one outlet. It works fine;,I just thought more water through quicker it would go. Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelfish11788
    Yes to all questions. Except it only has one outlet. It works fine;,I just thought more water through quicker it would go. Thanks
    +1 to Kevin.

    More flow equals more food [Ammonia/TrItes] flowing past the growing BB colony but it doesn't increase the rate at which the BB develops.

    In this case a higher flow rate could potentially increase the sponges capacity for BB [Over low flow] as it would keep more BB fed than a lower rate. You can't have more BB than you have food available to feed them you know?

    This will work but IMO your goals would be more effectively served by a higher flow.
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    alright, i think i have a higher powered air pump somewhere, back in the day of buying all deals on craiglist i got a smal box of powerheads and airepumps somewhere i just cant find them


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    She SO is a bro :-P - 850R I am not! I checked. - mommy1 as close as I could come to a rabbit snail :o) - fishmommie No Cardinal Tetra so have a Neon for all your time and effort - steeler1 For those of us who have known the love of an Oto. - MandyK 
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    You can get a pretty powerful one relatively cheaply these days.

    I'm using one of these in my 75gal: http://www.amazon.com/JW-Pet-Company...words=air+pump

    It's pretty beastly.
    Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
    Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
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    There are a lot of misconceptions about Sponge Filters and their efficiency. Actually, properly-sized Sponge Filters can out perform HOB filters as far as biological filtration is concerned.

    Here's a very well-written article on Sponge Filters and how they work. Very good reading.

    http://www.americanaquariumproducts....iltration.html

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    Thanks for the Rep points. - steeler1 For being helpful - and you own bluerams - ddavis1979 Merry Christmas! - fishmommie Merry Christmas KevinVA - jeffs99dime sorry for your loss. - Gogi 
    She SO is a bro :-P - 850R I am not! I checked. - mommy1 as close as I could come to a rabbit snail :o) - fishmommie No Cardinal Tetra so have a Neon for all your time and effort - steeler1 For those of us who have known the love of an Oto. - MandyK 
    just because - talldutchie One for your dusty library to - steeler1 For the new baby, wish it were a real bottle! - steeler1 congratulations on the beautiful baby boy - fishmommie I can't rep you again but want to say Yup to this ,http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=112196&p=1153338#post1153338 cleaning tanks and filters once a week still leaves 6 days and 23 hours to relax and enjoy their be - Honey Badger 1 
    For your loss, bummer man. - steeler1 Thanks for the help - Cliff cheers man! It's Friday! - mojosodope Drink with the crew? - Sandz Its almost Friday again! Lets grill some and drink a few! - Sandz 
    Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - KevinVA World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - KevinVA Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - KevinVA 

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    Nice link. Thanks Dave.
    Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
    Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
    Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
    Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
    My 75 Gal Journal
    My Snail Breeding Journal

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    Yup good stuff.

    Also very good reading is their lighting article, I have linked that here many times .
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