My tank to small for an Angel?

[ijankrom]

I have a 25g with 6 blackskirt tetra currently. I'm planning on getting a rubber lip pleco in the future for sure. I'm wanting a rather larger fish that will definitely catch someone's eye when first glancing at my tank - you know to draw them in to look more. Would my 25g be to small for a single angelfish? If it makes a difference, I'm planning on adding a 10g sump wet/dry filtration system. Your thoughts? In case you're wondering, 24 x 13 x 19 are the dimensions.

[FinalJenemba]

That's an interesting tank size, not one i've seen. I generally consider a 29g with a 30" width as the minimum for an adult angel, they get bigger then people think. You tank is pretty close though, I would only worry about the width. I'd say you could probably get away with it but he'd be cramped as an adult.

[Lady Hobbs]

If you have to ask, then it is. I would not even keep one in a 29 gallon. Sorry. An angel would not "catch" your eye. He would sit in the same spot all day due to lack of swimming area.

[mizzoutank]

I like the AC and have found people for the most part helpful and kind in their correction of my misinformation or stupid questions they have probably answered a hundred times but answers like this when you already are not sure of what you are doing just discourage the person asking and others reading it from seeking help and unless I have misunderstood that is one of the reasons for the AC

Longest "sentence" ever....

here's the deal. the OP delivered the question as knowing that it wasnt a good idea but needed the confirmation of this forum. just like looking at new lexus....i could get it. but all my friends will say-dumbest idea ever.

so the OP knew it wasn't smart, but needed us to say, ya your right. not a good thing for your tank. how about these other fish.

i'm sorry you took offense to someone else's question and response. but there is no harm, no foul on anyone posting here.

have a good day though.

[Lady Hobbs]

butterbean......I answered the question that was asked. Almost always if someone needs a confirmation of adding a large fish to a small tank, they already know the answer. They are looking for confirmation to what they already know. Just as mizz said.

I do not take the time to analyze each answer I give for fear of hurting someones "feelings". Sometimes they simply want an honest answer.

[inuudo]

Longest "sentence" ever....

Hardly. And it was grammatically correct apart from a missing comma, making it much more readable than a lot of stuff one encounters online!

Being quite new to aquariums and this forum, I have some empathy for what butterbean is saying.

[ijankrom]

Whoa! Did not expect this post to go in the direction it had.

If you have to ask, then it is. I would not even keep one in a 29 gallon.

Can understand how this statement would appear to come across as rude. I had asked a question and expected your guy's opinion via experiences.

Almost always if someone needs a confirmation of adding a large fish to a small tank, they already know the answer.

so the OP knew it wasn't smart

Some would not agree with me, but I don't think there's ever a absolute answer in this hobby (often not even close). Way to many variables. http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=99790
For if I did not ask I would have probably purchased an angel. Several documents suggest a 29 gal for angel, LH's opinion is that would still be too small. IMHO, 25 is not so far from a 29. I would have gone for it, but I wanted to ask what others experience with angels were. Did not want that buyer's regret feeling.

You simply have to allow for those tall fins so they are not getting caught in plants or sticking out of the water.

If I'm not mistaken the standard 55g is 21 high. Only bring this up as I did not believe I posted the right dimensions of my tank (I'm planning a DIY PVC overflow so I have a bunch of numbers in my head) so I measured again when I got home. 24 x 12.5 x 21

I do my best not to take offense to anyone's post, after all it's said the worst form of communication is writing as it lacks that face-to-face interaction.

For posterity sake lets just agree to not always agree and move on.



Any further fish suggestions. Thank you fishmommie

Just be careful. I had a school of black skirts and they hunted... I call them and red minors (serpe tetras) wolfpack fish...

If you're mentioning this because their know to nip, I was thinking the same. Though several sites state Blackskirt Tetras where compatible with Angel.? Just another example this hobby is far reaching.

[imma24]

From what I've seen recommended here in the past for those looking to house an angel, 25 gal is too small - plus, there's the chance that the blackskirts would be too attracted to the long fins anyway.

[mizzoutank]

hobbs nailed it.

if you gave an ONE angel a 55gallon tank. you'll see him all about.
but if you cramp him in a 25, he'll be in a corner all the time.

you have a good set up for:
One gourami or
One ram

[luke77]

I would have to agree. I tried one angel in my 20 gallon tall I had and it just wasn't big enough. Now with my 55 gallon I have one large one and the fish seems much more active.