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  1. #1

    Default Cliff's 1&2 attempt at a algae scrubber


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    The guidelines / rules of thumb the I used and mention below are taken directly from the below link: http://algaescrubber.net/forums/show...cs-The-Summary

    I thought I would document my second & first attempt at building a vertical algae scrubber. I upgraded my sump changing the scrubber before I even got my first build up and running. I’m taking a little different approach by trying to keep everything as low cost and low energy consumption as possible. I used the below rules of thumb which are explained in a lot more detail in the link I posted above. Whenever possible, I followed that information as close as I could

    Some Scrubber Guidelines that I used:

    Sizing of the screen:
    If you will have the screen lit from both sides then the size (area) of the screen should be 1 square each per gallon of your display tank (double that if the screen if only lit from one side). In my case, for a 180 gallon tank, the screen needs to be at least 180 square inches as I am lighting it from both sides. As I am also running a skimmer and have a macro algae compartment in the sump, I choose a little smaller screen size of 12 X 10 inches just to make this build easier for me and to be able to use some cheap LED lighting that I already had. On a system without a skimmer, this screen would only be able to support a maximum of a 100 to 120 gallon tank (depending on how it is set-up). The screen dose go a lot longer than that, but the extra material is not lit so I do not count it.

    Flow through the scrubber:
    The rule of thumb is 35 GPH for each inch of screen with. As my screen is 12 inches wide, I would need 420 gph of flow. This will be plumbed this off my return line which will put the flow closer to 550 gph. From what I have read, more is better.

    Lighting:
    For a double sided (lit on both sides) vertical scrubber, you should have 1 watt per gallon of water with a color temp of 2,700 to 3,500K for best results. This rule of thumb applies to CFL or T5HO lighting and refers to actual watts, not the “incandescent equivalent”. I could not find anything credible to use for LED or other forms of lighting. I will be using two cheap/knock-off LED panels with a total of 240 watts of LED lighting somewhere closer to 6000K range of color temp. The color temp is just my guess based on my visual observations and comparison to the 6,700K lighting on my fresh water planted tank. I do not know for certain what the actual color temp is making this will be a little bit of a test/experiment for me.

    From what I have read, with both higher than required flow levels and higher than required lighting levels, the color spectrum of the light becomes less important. To quote the link posted above, “flow and light intensity trumps spectrum”. I’m counting on that here in my build.

    And now for the actual build

    As I will have about 550 GPH of flow, I used a combination of ½ and ¾ inch pipe and fittings for the build. I could have just used ½ inch, but seeing as how I had a good mixture of both sitting in the garage, I decided to use them. As long as the smallest sized fitting/pipe can handle the maximum planned flow that will be alright (and it will in this case as well). From what I have read, cutting the slot for the screen to slide into is the hardest part of the build, and they were correct (even more-so since I can only use my left hand). I tried using my dremel with the correct cutting blade but I could not cut a straight 1/8 inch wide slot to save my life. Then the “red-neck” in me remembers the blade on my table saw was also 1/8 inch thick. I must say, cleaning plastic bits off the table saw blade was a lot easier than trying to cut this by hand. I would not recommend doing this very often as it is hard on saw blades

    The Risks:
    -The lighting that I am using is not the best suited for a scrubber and may need to be up-graded. I am assuming the higher intensity of the lighting will make up for the higher color spectrum.
    -The scrubber is plumbed into the return line from the sump, which is after the live rock/macro algae and skimmer compartments of the sump. As they will both take nutrients out of the water before reaching the scrubber, the algae growth might be slower.
    -My nitrates are currently around 1 ppm. It may take a while before the fish get close to their full sizes and increase the bio-load enough for a good amount of nitrates the algae can use to grow.
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
    "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo
    Fishless Cycle Cycling with Fish Marine Aquarium Info [URL="http://saltwater.aquaticcommunity.com/"]

  2. #2

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    And now some more pics

    Below is the frame that I build to hold the screen


    Below is the screen getting “roughed” up



    These are the two LED fixtures that I used for the scrubber before I installed them on the scrubber. They are cheap E-bay knock-off fixtures but they are pretty darn brought



    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
    "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo
    Fishless Cycle Cycling with Fish Marine Aquarium Info [URL="http://saltwater.aquaticcommunity.com/"]

  3. #3

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    This is the splash screen that I had made to protect the LEDs from the water. I used two plastic bolts & nuts with a 2 inch length of ½ inch PVC as a spacer. The splash guard its self is a 12inch X 12inch pc of acrylic on either side.



    Here is a pic of the algae scrubber plumbed into the sump


    And here are a few pics of the scrubber with the LEDs on and everything working as it should


    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
    "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo
    Fishless Cycle Cycling with Fish Marine Aquarium Info [URL="http://saltwater.aquaticcommunity.com/"]

  4. #4

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    sweet Cliff. I'm sure this will be useful to any future DIY'er.

  5. #5

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    for posting that article, I laughed so much!!!!!!!! - ScottishFish Kick back and enjoy the day when your done your painting - Cliff thanks for the rep! - EowynShieldmaiden Otis thanks you for the rep - Cliff This one will have a longer life span, sorry to hear about your fish - Cliff 
    For being a smarty pants and figuring out my riddle so fast! :) - escamosa The last one of these Ill ever give! Enjoy the AC bucks Rue! - smaug Yes, there is still a place in today's world for the  Darwin Awarads - Cliff Thanks for the Rep!!! :) - C-Dub Merry Christmas - Cliff 
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    Wow (again). Can I commision you to build me a spaceship?

    I'm sure you could do it!
    55 g Goldfish Tank - 5 Fancies, 2 Dojos
    25 g Tropical Tank - Celestial Pearl Danio/Mixed

  6. #6

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    Looks solid man... definitely a great idea with the splash guards lol one I didn't think of until after the fact

    You should take growth pictures and keep us updated, just a pic per week or something to see the progression
    55g Long --> After 18mo of doing well the tank crashed during moving. Most likely cause: Flatworm Die-off... won't start another until after moving... Likely not until late 2013

    20g Long --> currently concoting a build plan

    Check out the journal to follow my 20g SW tank

    "Take a chance, because you never know how perfect some things can turn out" -- unknown

  7. #7

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    Assuming I get good growth that is.

    With less then 2ppm of nitrates, I'm not really expecting this to grow fast. I'm am really looking / planning a little further ahead. As I wil be adding mroe fish, and the ones I have are not fully grown yet, I want to have something in place to handle the increasing bioload. The algae in the scrubber should grow as the bioload increases keeping the parameters in line.
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
    "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo
    Fishless Cycle Cycling with Fish Marine Aquarium Info [URL="http://saltwater.aquaticcommunity.com/"]

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rue
    Wow (again). Can I commision you to build me a spaceship?
    I'm sure you could do it!
    Batteries are available here
    http://www.batterybob.com/category.asp?cat=9018

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    Looks awesome! Good job! Nice write up!

    FYI, with the lights covering the slit in the PVC... it will grow algae and slow the flow. My next build I am going to prevent algae from growing there.
    300g + 240g in wall build! - Follow Here
    120g SW Reef, LED lights, cool fish and corals!

  10. #10

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    I was wondering if that might happen. Based on a lot of pics I have found on line it looks like others might have had that problem as well.

    I just might need to get some longer splash guards so I can lower the lights a little.

    I'll have to wait and see what type of grow I get first and change the way the lights sit on the frame when the algae starts growing good.

    Thanks guys
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
    "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo
    Fishless Cycle Cycling with Fish Marine Aquarium Info [URL="http://saltwater.aquaticcommunity.com/"]

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