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Thread: Need some help
12-07-2012, 08:41 PM #11
hey Dave. I'm sorry I have nothing to offer but you might want to private message Indian Woods Angel if you don't get any suggestions. Like you, he is very experience in raising and breeding angel fish and might be able so help shed some light on this issue. Sorry about the angel.
12-07-2012, 11:04 PM #12
Believe 850R nailed it on the head. Maybe trying to modify fish behavior just made things worse.25 Gal - Tropical
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12-07-2012, 11:20 PM #13
Sorry about the Angel. I few years back I had a problem with small angels when I lived in Fresno. I would take fishmommies advice and PM Indian Woods Angel . Good luck.Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
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12-08-2012, 01:11 AM #14
Sorry about your fish, it's hard but sometimes I don't think you ever really know what happened other then yours or someone else educated guess from yours or their experience I had a young angel kill an angel I had for about 3 years way back when so I would never have more then one angel in a tank. I know others that have like 5 or 6 in the same tank and they do just great.30 gal Freshwater
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12-08-2012, 01:24 AM #15
The black I had the aggression problem with is no longer in the tank.
I'll send him a PM Mom, thanks.
12-08-2012, 01:39 AM #16
The point these guys are making is that while the Black one was the bully from the previous stocking, now that he's gone, another one could rise to the occasion. One bully will keep the others in line (and stressed out). No bully presents an opportunity to take over.
I know you have experience with Angels, but the people giving you advice have had years of experience, as well. The issue of stocking can possibly be the problem you're dealing with... It could be bad breeding (mutation/birth defect/etc), it could be just stress from being in a new environment... Hell, it could be that he was more prone to the effects of Ammonia than the others.
We'll never know if he'd have survived, if you took the advice of 850R or Lady Hobbs, because you didn't try separating all of them.
Not trying to beat a dead horse , just giving you some food for thought.
12-08-2012, 03:13 AM #17
fishmommie, just got PM back from Indian Woods. He stated he's had the same thing happen a couple of times, once right while he was watching. He made some sense too, said they're like us and stuff happens.
I know this sounds weird but, I've been watching the tank and the other two keep going over to where he liked to hang out, swim around for a bit and go back to their haunt. They've both done this several times now.
12-09-2012, 05:48 PM #18
Well, did a 25% water-Change yesterday afternoon and vacuumed half the gravel. Lost another perfectly healthy Angelfish last night. Not a mark on it.
I'm wondering, at this point, if maybe the Tetra Aquasafe might be the problem. Checked with the API kit again this AM.
Something weird is going on in my tank. These are healthy fish that die within 48 hours of doing a Water-Change.
12-09-2012, 06:46 PM #19
This is a long established tank, right? have you by any chance checked the ph of both your tap and tank water lately? Know you are experienced and have probably thought of possible shock if there's a major difference. perhaps your water supplier changed something? might be worth checking.
Hope you get to the bottom of it. Feel so bad for your losses
Originally Posted by Dave Waits
12-10-2012, 01:33 AM #20
I'm going to call the County Water Dept. tomorrow and see if they're doing anything different.
Current tap water shows the same Ph as what's in my tank.