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  1. #21

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    After growing up around and keeping horse's I always found it interesting that mustangs always reverted back to runty little shot-legged horse's when left alone.
    Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
    Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit.
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    See my profile for my tanks and what fish I keep

  2. #22


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    Quote Originally Posted by 850R
    Really? On a thread where opinions are being asked for? Relax
    I wasn't being sensitive just thinking I might be in over my head and would do well to listen and learn for now
    30 gal Freshwater
    1 young Angel, 6 Pepper Corydoras, 5 Harlequin Rasbora 1 Bristle-nose Pleco

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    I actually those are very nice looking and i have to admit that if they were at my lfs I would e buying some.

    I am on the fence about how they are made and breed. I see the good in trying to learn from this type of thing and i can really see how it could help us in the big picture. Its up there with cloning.... if little steps like this could mean curing my wifes diabeties or my moms MS or repairing the nerves in my leg so i could walk again or curring cancer... the numbers of people that could be helped is insain. It may not be perfect as far as ethics.... but at least the shot to ethics isnt in vain. I could live with that.
    Angel breeder wanna-be

  4. #24


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    I'm sure Barbie and Ken would like those angels
    My therapist says I need a bigger tank . . . . .

  5. #25


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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion5
    Discus' natural color is black and muddy brown. Same with angelfish
    Not true. Wild caught discus are gorgeous and highly sought after. The same goes for wild altum and scalare angels.

    Genetic manipulation has been around since we learned to selectively breed plants and animals for specific traits. Glofish are no more atrocious on moral grounds than goldfish that can barely swim and bulldogs that cannot birth their pups naturally.
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  6. #26


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    Anything (fish or dog) that is worse off (in health) because of its selective breeding is a massive turn off for me.

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    As a bulldog owner, I cannot say anything negative about these fish. Animal domestication and selective breeding go hand in hand.
    I wonder how many people are opposed to this that eat strictly organic meats (IE, animals that are not fed hormones or selectively bred for whatever reason). Not that it makes it ethically right..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~firefly~
    Let's leave God out of it

    Humans have been changing animals for thousands of years - the pure variety of pedigree dog breeds is testament to that. Doesn't make it "right" though...the ethics of changing nature. Can you rationally apply ethics to nature when nature is so violent and full of suffering? Are we part of nature or are we seperate to it? With the ability to empathise does it enhance or inhibit our objectivity? Interesting topic for a debate ...ok I'll stop now before I get into trouble.

    first and probably last post, but if people are putting there opnions, why leave God out

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    Smile Read the forum rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelfish11788
    first and probably last post, but if people are putting there opnions, why leave God out
    Religious discussion is prohibited on the AC
    My therapist says I need a bigger tank . . . . .

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    @angel...I think no one meant anything other than God made the fish as they were. Humans changed them into what they are now.

    Let's get back on topic peeps.

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