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    Yet another reason I'll stick with FW, lol
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    Indeed....and I thought my dog's poots were toxic....
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    That was quite educational. That information should be made more widely available to folks who wish to keep coral reef tanks. I know that divers who get cut by coral often suffer terrible infections, but I thought that was just due to bacteria. Now I know there are chemical toxins in those animals. Kudos to the author for sharing that experience, and kudos to the publisher for publishing the story. People need to know this stuff.
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    Palythoa's (paly's) and zoanthids are well known for their palytoxin; this is the first time I've heard of an association between palytoxin and pulsating xenia (I wonder if there were some unseen paly's on that scrubbed rock, and the xenia got blamed).

    Regardless of the coral source, I didn't know palytoxin could get in the air (well, other than by an extreme manner, that is, e.g., I read somewhere palytoxin got aerosolized by someone boiling a rock covered in paly's and the hobbyist got affected by it).

    I know you shouldn't handle paly's/zoa's without eye protection or if you have open cuts on your hands (when I worked a an LFS years ago, eye googles and latex gloves were mandatory when fragging them).


    Regarding pulsating xenia, I've had it for years with zero issues; at one point I had massive quantities of it in my tank:



    I do remove nuisance paly's in my reef tank every now and then (when they make encroachment moves toward some of my SPS corals), though I tend to do it underwater using a tweezer to extract them and avoid the palytoxin-laden squirts.
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    So maybe a not so experienced SW aquarist? Either way, I'm guessing if you take care with them and handle them properly, there shouldn't be a problem. Like said above, it's the first time this has been heard of and likely required a combo of factors for it to become airborne. Still something to keep in mind and every SW hobbyist should be aware. Btw @kaybee, that is a really cool vid. Are the plants/coral carnivorous?
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelcraze2 View Post
    Are the plants/coral carnivorous?
    The prey capture ability of pulsating xenia (the coral in my video and primary toxic suspect in the article) is under-developed and they primarily sustain themselves via direct nutrient uptake of dissolved organics and photosynthesis.

    Actually, after my earlier post, I reviewed a book on corals ('Aquarium Corals' by E. Borneman) and the author states that at least half of all known soft corals produce toxic compounds, and that Xenia spp. are 'occasionally highly toxic'; so there may be something to the story here in regards to the culprit. Perhaps the scrubbing action triggered a intense self-defense mechanism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    Yet another reason I'll stick with FW, lol
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    That information should be made more widely available to folks who wish to keep coral reef tanks...People need to know this stuff.
    I'm more worried about tuberculosis from a FW tank than what happened to this family. Something doesn't add up. Thousands of aquarists clean their tanks and also pull out and cut up corals into tiny little frags with things like band saws and bone cutters without issue. As Kaybee stated, palytoxins and such are very well-known in the SW community, but they are always issues only with things like eyes and open-wound contact. Airborne toxicity has never been an issue and the SW groups and forums were discussing this story a lot when it first broke a couple weeks ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaybee View Post
    Perhaps the scrubbing action triggered a intense self-defense mechanism.
    I'm going with a boiling scenario. The guy probably wanted to kill off whatever was growing on a rock or rocks and so he boiled them, triggering a massive response from the animals and the toxins were then vaporized by the boiling water or carried into the air by the steam.

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