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    Is it normal for an ADF to float at the top and hang up there on occasion?

    I read that it can be a sign of poor water conditions or a sick frog. However, sometimes my frog will hang out for a bit and I've noticed one of my 3 frogs has been up there a little longer tonight. Is this normal on occasion? How long is hanging out at the top a concern vs. a frog taking it easy/relaxing?

    I haven't had my tank long: I had a friend help me cycle with their filter material and I've had the tank barely a month (and the frogs only about a week). I plan on checking the water conditions tomorrow but so far I've been vacuuming 1-2 times a week (about 10-20 percent of the water changed both times) and the water level has been stable. (0 ammonia/nitrites and under 10 nitrates). I haven't had the frogs long, though, and started feeding frozen bloodworms so it's possible that the nitrate level has gone up since I checked last and I'll be checking soon. I mostly wanted to know if this was normal to see on occasion, though, and not *always* cause for concern? In the life of the tank, I haven't lost any critters yet and I don't want one of my frogs to be the first :P

    I haven't seen any more than 1 frog at the top at a time, which has caused me not to worry. I also have some anacharis at the top, which I could see encouraging a frog to hang out at the top with, since it gives them something to hang on to?

    Another question: How are ADF with adult ghost shrimp? I bought 3 today and the frogs are definitely curious about them, but the shrimp are fast and staying away. I'm okay with the frogs eating their babies (actually I think that would be kinda neat) but do you think the adults will be okay as long as they stay healthy? And are red cherry shrimp adults okay with the frogs? (Don't have any, but they seem cool). I just watched a video of a frog munching on a ghost shrimp so now I'm a bit concerned for the shrimp. I have lots of hiding places in my tank, but the frogs also enjoy those some hiding places so I'm sure they'll be in contact with the shrimp a lot.

    Thanks in advance for help/input!

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    Our frogs sometimes float, limbs stretched out, at the top of the water. If you tap the lid right above them, do they startle and quickly swim down? I'd check the water quality and make sure that's okay, and unless you notice other problems, I think they're alright. At least, in our tank, the floating wouldn't concern me.

    I don't know anything about shrimp, but frogs are pretty blind, and what I notice is they'll latch onto anything (mostly each other in our tank) that moves, thinking it might be food. So they might grab onto the shrimp when they're near enough.
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    They didn't seem to startle too quickly, though I was pretty gentle with the tank and didn't put anything in it or tap on the glass, more so waved my hand next to it. And they're not at the top now, but I'll have to check another time. It does appear though, that if I were to disturb them that they'd probably sink down. They're pretty active and after I posted, my frog was probably only at the top about 30 minutes returning to the bottom, so I think it's normal sometimes?

    The ghost shrimp made it past the first 24 hours but I'm not holding me breathe -- I think it's possible they'll become food if they're not careful. But I think it seems like they'll probably co-exist okay and long as I keep the frogs fed and the shrimp learn when they should get out of the way (which I believe they are).

    Thanks for the input!

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    I think red cherry shrimp are cool, though I haven't added them and I think since I believe they're even smaller, I don't think I'm going to risk it and stick with the ghost shrimp. If anyone has had good luck with them together or has any thoughts, though, I'd love to hear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicjess2 View Post
    I think red cherry shrimp are cool, though I haven't added them and I think since I believe they're even smaller, I don't think I'm going to risk it and stick with the ghost shrimp. If anyone has had good luck with them together or has any thoughts, though, I'd love to hear!
    From what I've read, there are several different types of ghost shrimp. I've further read that many of those will prey on the Red Cherry Shrimp. Personally, I'd pick one or the other.

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    Ghost (grass) shrimp are usually sold as feeders, and don't receive the best care, so many times they don't live long.

    I'd prefer RCS if it were my tank....or, you could add a couple of amano shrimp

    EDIT: I see you already have the ghost shrimp, n/m

    What size is the tank?...how is it filtered?
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    Ghost (grass) shrimp are usually sold as feeders, and don't receive the best care, so many times they don't live long.

    I'd prefer RCS if it were my tank....or, you could add a couple of amano shrimp

    EDIT: I see you already have the ghost shrimp, n/m

    What size is the tank?...how is it filtered?
    Good to know about the RCS. I didn't read up on them much yet.

    It's a 20 gallon tank with a hang on the back filter.

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    Saw that on your other thread, but I can't tell if it's a 20 long or 20 tall?
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    Saw that on your other thread, but I can't tell if it's a 20 long or 20 tall?
    It's a long one :)

    I didn't want the frogs to have far to travel to get to the top. It's 12inches high and I keep the water about an inch from the top so with the gravel they have about 10-11 inches to swim upwards depending on the water level.

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    I like that footprint better as well -- the 20L

    Good for you, for knowing the frogs need the shallower tank.
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