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    Have been thinking for awhile on possibly doing a black water/ biotube tank. Joe's and Mac's dark water tanks look pretty awesome. I do not know what size tank or when it will happen or if it even will happen, this journal will help me decide what direction I am going to take. with the next set up. I would like to keep the non pertinent post to a minimum here, so as to keep the information easier to access for me and anybody else who might want to look into creating a black water tank.
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    Lol I will be switching my 75 to blackwater too, well when I get a second 75 I will switch it to Asian blackwater as well. Will be fun to watch you get one set up-I know it will be before I even get my stands done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boundava View Post
    Lol I will be switching my 75 to blackwater too, well when I get a second 75 I will switch it to Asian blackwater as well. Will be fun to watch you get one set up-I know it will be before I even get my stands done.
    i Wouldn't be to sure about that Nat. I'll be really lucky if I start building the stand till after the 1st of the year.
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    Lol, I have to build stands for a 125, two 75, and dual racks shelves to hold a 55 gallon, two 40B, two 30 gallon. two 20L, , a 15 gallon, three 10 gallons and three 5.5 gallons. I was so busy at work yesterday I drew up the plans for them and I think it was something like 30 feet of stands.

    Should be fun since its my first time ever building stands-or racks, and the bottom shelf for the first tank will be 25" off the floor.

    Not to mention the backgrounds I was planning on doing for the two 75s, the 125, the two 40B and two 30 gallon river tanks. Lol, maybe painting them will be a better and faster plan.

    So your date of 2018 would probably be before my completion date.
    Last edited by Boundava; 07-26-2017 at 03:08 PM.
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    When you folks talk about BW, are you simply talking about tinting the water, without having to reduce the TDS value to less than 150ppm, and reducing the PH to below 7.0?

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    Good call because like we have mentioned in other threads if the KH is high adding leaves and other botanicals will not necessarily drop pH

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    I am talking about few plants, lots of DW and leaf litter...on a sand substrate. I am not looking for a black tint-but a tea colored water like I had the tank set up before, with a lot less plants and more DW in varying shapes and sizes with a submerged DW log type river back background and a mangrove root background in each tank.

    Not looking for a drop in PH-not the reason I am going for the blackwater tanks. I do realize the leaf litter/seed pods/DW will affect the pH and how much is determined by my KH. Currently run CO2 on the tank so my fish are used to a slightly acidic water quality already from the CO2.

    Any articles on specifics would be appreciated, but everything I have read simply states something similar to this:

    http://fish.mongabay.com/biotope_amazon_blackwater.htm
    Blackwater ponds, creeks, and rivers originate in the rain-forest. In the slow-moving waters, acids are leeched from decaying vegetation creating very transparent, tea-colored water. These waters have almost no measurable water hardness and an acidic pH.
    The substrate in blackwater habitats is typically leaf litter over a base of fine clay or sand. Decaying wood and plant matter is common especially in flooded igapo forest. There are many submerged terrestrial plants, many of which retain most of their leaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmazonJoe View Post
    Good call because like we have mentioned in other threads if the KH is high adding leaves and other botanicals will not necessarily drop pH
    Yeah Joe, if you were using just your native tap water in your amazon tank, you could have a tank full of botanicals and the pH probably wouldn't drop all that much because the kh is just to high?

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    Exactly my water would still be hard and keep the same pH no matter how much botanicals I throw in there so using RO is a must.

    If that's what your going for of course .. if you just want the tannins and the benefits brought on by them then of course just use your tap water
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    My current fish are used to the tap water, I am looking to move to a home that has Michigan water too (though some are still on public or private wells). So my goal is not to drastically change the water parameters but to increase the ambiance for the fish as well as the benefits of botanicals in the water.

    Since I have already jacked the heck out of Ken's thread (so sorry Ken!), I will mention that I had 2 lights on my 75, a Finnex 24/7 planted+ and the old Finnex Fugeray with moonlights. When the Fugeray died on me and the tank dimmed some my fish acted different, bolder-more active. I had the high lights for the plants but would like to change the ambiance for the fish now that i have the chance. Since I will be splitting the tanks; making them more regional (S.A and Asian), I decided to go with more DW, leaf and pods, and less plants. Rainbows (at least the little ones I have-and have read on them) don't appreciate the tannins so much, so I have the 55 I found that I will plant up for them once I fix it up a little-needs a new top trim and maybe reseal it.

    Again I am sorry Ken to have jacked the heck out of your thread
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