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    As I discussed with Mac a little bit ago on the AC facebook page, I have taken down my 29 gallon planted aquarium. This was a hard decision but necessary one as my wife and I began rearranging our bedroom for a more open space. One complaint I have always had about my tanks is that they were “projects” (meaning building, buying, and rearranging things as I went). I began wanting just one very professional looking, well thought of, and sturdy aquarium that I could observe and enjoy.
    I am confident that I would like to do a South American Cichlid biotope. I am not looking to do a true biotope (rocks and wood from Brazil and other SA countries) but am planning on sand with spider wood and black water. I have been thinking about and considering this project for a long time. I have already purchased a HOB overflow and a DIY sump. I am planning to purchase a 60-gallon rimless tank from a friend. As said before, I am tired of having “alright” tanks that I threw together over time. I am really desiring a nice and clean looking display aquarium.
    The reason I am posting this is because I am trying to consider stock. I believe I would like to go a geophagus route, specifically Geophagus Red Head Tapajo. I have never kept geophagus before. What are some things to watch out for, specific care requirements, experiences, aggression? Ultimately, I would also like to do a somewhat larger school of rummy nose as well. I can get them captive bred or wild-caught. My neo-naturalist blood makes me want the wild-caught but are they then harder to keep? Water is going to be RO.

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    After re-reading this I saw how this could be interpreted as a little haughty. What I was really trying to communicate was I am tired of having on par or used equipment that breaks down or looks bad (example: the fact that my 29 gallon was being help up by a 90s tv stand lol). I am just saying that I would like something nice looking that will last me multiple years and I won't have to constantly fidget with it.

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    Geophagus Red Head Tapajo are easy to keep. At least captive breed fish. Never kept wild caught. The most important thing to think about would be that they prefer a fine gravel/sand that they can sift through. It also important to remember that they (unlike most other cichlids) prefer to be kept in a group. I would recommend 6-8 or more.
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    60g tank is pretty tight and small for a harem of red heads ( 1 male to 3 females). If you get a pair from the group, the rest of the group will be stuck squabbling over each other in only 2 feet of space.

    http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/v...c.php?t=200218

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    I humbly disagree. Remember that they are mouth broaders and doesn't form pairs in the same way as other SA cichlids. They do not keep a territory for spawning. With that said. I think it might be hard to keep ( 1 male to 3 females). Never tried. I think it is better to keep a larger group. It is possible that keeping just a few creates aggression that you do not see in a larger group. Similar to what you see in African mouth broaders. I would suggest 3 males to 5 females or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    I humbly disagree. Remember that they are mouth broaders and doesn't form pairs in the same way as other SA cichlids. They do not keep a territory for spawning. With that said. I think it might be hard to keep ( 1 male to 3 females). Never tried. I think it is better to keep a larger group. It is possible that keeping just a few creates aggression that you do not see in a larger group. Similar to what you see in African mouth broaders. I would suggest 3 males to 5 females or something like that.

    a 4 foot tank is still too small for that many (8) sized fish for life. The males have a potential to hit 7".
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    That is a good point. A 100 gallon would be better

    (I was thinking it was bigger than it is. I am thinking in L and converted it wrong. Sorry)
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    Well thanks Rocksor and William. What would be another good consideration? I would like for a cichlid to be my main attractive fish. Are there any other geophagus that would fit that bill or should I start looking for dwarf cichlid species like rams?

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    Geophagus parnaibae or Gymnogeophagus sp. 'Norte' usually stay small. They ares likely your best bets for a Geophagus species. Jeff Rapps have Geophagus parnaibae from time to time

    Other alternatives include Guianacara, gymnogeophagus meridionalis or Biotodoma
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    Just throwing this out there as a question. If I wanted to go the Discus route, would that be a possibility, how many, and how would that pecking order look like? I was looking through our wholesaler list today and they had a nice Wild Green and some sort of spotted type caught from the Rio Nanay. They looked beautiful!

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