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    I recently saw a video with Rusty Wessel and his conservation fish house. In the fish house was tons of central and south american cichlids. I've seen claims on other forums by pretty knowledgeable and trustworthy members saying that overstocking in order to alleviate aggression does NOT apply to central and south american cichlids. Rusty (an extremely prominent member of the ACA), claims that he sometimes over stocks in order to keep aggression down. Any thoughts?
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    This will be interesting to see discussed and answered.

    Ime with apistogramma the more you have females eventually the weakest will be smashed. Same with the males.

    While with the tanganyika ones the more you had the less issues you had.

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    This will be interesting to see discussed and answered.

    Ime with apistogramma the more you have females eventually the weakest will be smashed. Same with the males.

    While with the tanganyika ones the more you had the less issues you had.
    He did make a comment on that. I probably should have mentioned that often times he has one dominant male, a harem of females and then a subdominant male.

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    I've found that some cichlids have seriously unique personality and some can be agressive no matter what.

    However with soooooo many different cichlids species some are more solitary while others are more gregarious so it really varies in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waylon101 View Post
    He did make a comment on that. I probably should have mentioned that often times he has one dominant male, a harem of females and then a subdominant male.

    This is entirely different than keeping an all male tank. Unlike African cichlids who have evolved in crowded conditions year round, both Central and South American cichlids do not handle stress in crowded conditions as easily all year round. Hence, why you can end up with an empty tank with one fish.

    You have to understand that Rusty has enough experience under his belt when to separate before anything tragic happens. He understands new world cichlids. He has also observed enough fish in the wild to see how things work.

    A news article on overcrowding,

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/sc...ggressive.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksor View Post
    This is entirely different than keeping an all male tank. Unlike African cichlids who have evolved in crowded conditions year round, both Central and South American cichlids do not handle stress in crowded conditions as easily all year round. Hence, why you can end up with an empty tank with one fish.

    You have to understand that Rusty has enough experience under his belt when to separate before anything tragic happens. He understands new world cichlids. He has also observed enough fish in the wild to see how things work.

    A news article on overcrowding,

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/sc...ggressive.html
    Very True Rocksor! Thanks for the info!

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    It depends on the species. Some of the smaller species can be overstocked to reduce tension. The large species can not be overstocked. If in doubt you should not try it. The number of species where it works is a lot lower than where it doesnt work. Most species does not live to densely in the wild.
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