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  1. Default Tiger Barb Agression/Alternatives


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    Hi, kids.

    I have a 55g community tank that is gradually evolving toward an "Asia" tank. It is well planted with several hugs swords and lots of smaller stuff, and currently stocked with dennison barbs/roseline sharks/torpedo barbs, turquoise rainbows, golden and siamese algae eaters, a red tail shark, a black moor goldfish, and a couple ottos and nerites. The GAEs get a little aggressive once in a while and will probably have to go away soon; other than that, everyone gets along just terrifically.

    The dennies are pretty, but their coloring is not quite what I want, so I'm looking for a new home for them. I would like to replace them with a school of tiger barbs; I'm thinking around 8 of them. I love their coloring, their belligerent little faces, the way they interact. Their activity and silver/orange/black coloration would make a striking contrast to the plants and turquoise rainbows. Also, I suspect they have fairly low bioload, so I could get a few of them without overtaxing the tank. But I am worried about their aggression.

    I read that if they are in a school of six or more, their aggression and fin nipping decreases dramatically. But I am still concerned that my black moor would be toast--longish fins, not fast at all. Any insight on that? Please tell me not to worry, that it would be fine, because I really want some tigers. Or better yet, tell me the truth. :)

    Failing that, what alternatives can you recommend that have a similar look, similar coloration, similar geographic origins, but wouldn't kill my gentle moor?

    Thanks!
    T
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    With barbs, its all about the numbers. I have an angel in a tank with a school of arulius barbs and his fins are perfect.

    This being said, 6 probably wont do the trick. If you do decide to get a larger school of tiger barbs you will need to re-evaluate your stocking.
    Last edited by Aeonflame; 04-03-2013 at 05:11 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeonflame View Post
    If you do decide to get a larger school of tiger barbs you will need to re-evaluate your stocking.
    True. I am right on the edge of being overstocked as it is; if I didn't have some fairly magnificent plant growth I would already be having problems. I'm thinking a school of 8.
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    Here's a great alternative to Tiger Barbs: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...d.php?t=108733

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    Thanks, Steeler. Due to your tip, I've done some research on those five-barred barbs. Most of the reading and all of the videos of them seem to indicate they are rather shy, nervous characters. I wonder if my school of rainbows and my redtail shark--very active critters all--would freak them out and relegate them to hiding out under the rocks and plants.

    What can you tell me about their personality? Are they active in the presence of other active fish?

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    IME they were alway out front and would race everybody to the top for food like most Barbs. They realy enjoyed sinking tablets as well as flake and bloodworms.

    Keep in mind that the biggest fish in the tank were Emperor Tetras. There were also Neon Dwarf Rainbows in the tank at the time. Only fish that might make them shy would be your shark.

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    You got a weird stocking onw. The goldfish doesn't belong there, the tank is too small for the dennisons, both of which prefer cooler water than the rest. You've got so many algae eaters that I wonder what the issue is there.

    The rainbows love hard water, the barbs prefer it a bit softer.

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    Talldutchie--it isn't conventional, but it's working, aesthetically and health-wise. No issue with algae since I finally figured out how to grow plants, but I like bottom feeders so I've tried a few different kinds through the years. Though like I said, the goldens are going to go away pretty soon because they are starting to get a bit more aggressive as they get older. The dennys seem happy--relaxed, active, healthy, and growing.

    My experience (and reading) with goldfish is that they do just fine in water around 75f, as do the rainbows. As for hardness, that pretty much is what it is, since I don't have a practical way to soften it. So you're right, it's weird. But it works. :)

    But OK, now that I am done fiercely defending my stocking choices, I do have a question about water hardness. I read that these five-banded barbs come from black water habitats--canals, near-stagnant pools, things like that. I don't know how hard my water is, but this being Wyoming I'm guessing it's on the hard side. Can the five-bandeds handle normal tap water, or do they need softened water?

    Thanks for the info, everybody. I don't know what I'll do yet, but it's always good to learn about new critters. It's even good to learn that my stocking is weird, though I already suspected that. :)
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    Just curious as to how long you've had your tank stocked like this? Sometimes I see posts from people who have fish in their tank that can potentially be aggressive towards other fish in the tank but "everything's fine now" - and then there are those who post after they've had things going for a while and are concerned because a fish or two are getting nippy or some are hiding out of fear - please consider this as you wouldn't want to stress out ANY fish in your tank - just my 2 cents.
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    As long as you slow acclimate them they should be fine.
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