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  1. #1

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    Good impulse buy! lol Now heres one for your AC tank - C-Dub Thanks buddy - Aeonflame Here's another one for your awesome tank! - jeffs99dime Thanks for returning my nose. - tate8 Merry Christmas - KingFisher 
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    Default I think it's Hole in the Head

    I have been observing my Firemouth for the past week now, I did not want to post this before I was pretty sure. It started with what looked like one dislodged scale right on the head between the eyes, this has now persistently spread across the head, I have read up on this and have found it can be due to lack of varied diet, poor water quality, or due to hexitima?

    It cannot be the diet, my tanks recieve flake, cichlid pellets, bloodworm, tubifex, brineshrimp, daphnia, courgette (zuchinni for the americans), cucumber, rotifers, krill, sinking algae wafers, sinking shrimp tablets . . . I am hyper about varied diets.

    Tank has more than enough filtration and tank is well matured. I do 75-80% weekly water changes. And the occupants are a pair of kribs, 4inch pleco, cories, danios, and the firemouth, so not overstocked for a 42 gallon. My firemouth is around 3inches the now.

    So what can I improve, change, or do to stop this? I would provide a picture but I havent had time to ge one due to exams. Will post one when I can. Until then here is a picture taken a month ago when he/she was healthy. Apart from this HOTH the fish iss in tip top condition.



    Thanks
    Last edited by ScottishFish; 05-03-2012 at 11:31 AM.
    My therapist says I need a bigger tank . . . . .

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    Halt, who goes there? - Aeonflame It is I, Arthur, son of Uther Pendragon, from the castle of Camelot. King of the Britons, defeator of the Saxons, sovereign of all England! - Aeonflame Pull the other one! - Aeonflame I am... and this is my trusty servant Patsy. We have ridden the length and breadth of the land in search of knights who will join me in my court at Camelot. I must speak with your lord and master. - Aeonflame What?  Ridden on a horse? - Aeonflame 
    Yes - Aeonflame You're using coconuts! - Aeonflame What? - Aeonflame You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're bangin' 'em together. - Aeonflame So? We have ridden since the snows of winter covered this land, through the kingdom of Mercea, through... - Aeonflame 
    Where'd you get the coconuts? - Aeonflame We found them - Aeonflame Found them? In Mercea? The coconut's tropical! - Aeonflame AeonFlame sent them to us in a message not unlike these. So be off with you. - Aeonflame its always good to give your english teacher an apple - genocidex 
    Here's the closest I can get to a trout from Wyoming. - WhistlingBadger Thanks for the help with the pic, have one on me - Cliff Excuse me.. Is that a pleco in your pocket are are you just platy to see me? - Goes to 11! Much appreciated! - Sligg Because we're in this one together. ;P - KevinVA 

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    Well if it's not poor water quality or bad diet it could very well be hex. Do you have a QT to put the fish in? This thread may help you:
    http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=73580

    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen

    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Smaug, you're here a lot just to say it's a waste of your time, poor baby, I bet you don't even know how big a loser you are, and how much we laugh at you and your foolish attempt to give your life meaning. Quit drinking, get a life, go take care of your family, grow up!


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    Good impulse buy! lol Now heres one for your AC tank - C-Dub Thanks buddy - Aeonflame Here's another one for your awesome tank! - jeffs99dime Thanks for returning my nose. - tate8 Merry Christmas - KingFisher 
    Merry Christmas - Cliff Merry Christmas Scottishfish - jeffs99dime Merry Christmas Douglas - Taurus Please enjoy this holiday hog! - Trillianne Have a super christmas! - Aeonflame 
    Congrats on 1 year! - andreahp Congrats on 1 year! - jeffs99dime Happy One-Year! - Rue Happy New Year! - ~firefly~ Thanks for the birthday wishes - mommy1 
    No Message - 850R Now THAT was a nice quiet beer... But now that we have had another... Let's go break stuff!! :-P - 850R Thanks for the rep/compliments! - mojosodope Thanks for the rep the other day, cheers - Cliff ...they go with snow, right? - ~firefly~ 

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    Thanks for the helpfull link mommy1, I unfortunately do not have a QT tank, not due to me not wanting one, I do know the extreme benefits of one, but mum and dad won't allow for a third tank, simple no
    My therapist says I need a bigger tank . . . . .

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    You have beautiful Frontosa. - Brookfish Seasons greetings, Have a great Christmas. - Brookfish Merry Christmas - Northernguy Just don'tmix this stingray in with cichlids... the Ph might be too high!  Too bad they edited my post on that thread... I'm on your side! - rageybug Thanks for the help with the Ich, Cripsy. That's my favorite fish in the tank, hope it makes it through - Friendly 
    Thanks! - Northernguy Thanks for the nom! - Brookfish Becuse I havn't sent you a gift yet and your fronts are so cool. - Celtic Fins For your school! lol - Northernguy For taking the time, thanks bud! - Brookfish 
    Congrats on the award! - Brookfish WC kitumba - Algenco Congratulations on your award Sorry it's late. :-) - Celtic Fins Have another! You tanks big enough! - Northernguy Congratulations on your awards - Celtic Fins 
    congrats on the Front eggs and reaching 1000 posts. - Brookfish Congrats on the fry! - Northernguy Congratulations on the fry sorry it is late - Celtic Fins Kudos on the common pleco! - MCHRKiller Happy Saint Patricks Day! - Brookfish 

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    is it getting picked on in any way? by the kribs maybe? stress can help it develop aswell. I would try smaller more frequent water changes. like 40% 2x per week. hope we can help this remedy itself. HITH is one of those diseases with alot of different theories, but still a big gray area when it comes to understanding it fully. diet and water quality definitely seem to be the leading causes. HITH usually happens in bigger fish when they start outgrowing their tanks. you seem to have an odd case here as far as the usual suspects for HITH go.
    Last edited by Crispy; 05-03-2012 at 12:21 PM.

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    Not even a cheap 5gal? I got one used - doesn't take up much space and doesn't need a stand - can be stored somewhere until needed.

    I am talking about a QT here : )
    46 gal fw tank with black skirt tetras, neon tetras, spotted cory catfish, cherry barbs, guppies, snails & 4 amano shrimp - plastic & live plants
    5 gal QT with green corys & 2 guppies

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    Good impulse buy! lol Now heres one for your AC tank - C-Dub Thanks buddy - Aeonflame Here's another one for your awesome tank! - jeffs99dime Thanks for returning my nose. - tate8 Merry Christmas - KingFisher 
    Merry Christmas - Cliff Merry Christmas Scottishfish - jeffs99dime Merry Christmas Douglas - Taurus Please enjoy this holiday hog! - Trillianne Have a super christmas! - Aeonflame 
    Congrats on 1 year! - andreahp Congrats on 1 year! - jeffs99dime Happy One-Year! - Rue Happy New Year! - ~firefly~ Thanks for the birthday wishes - mommy1 
    No Message - 850R Now THAT was a nice quiet beer... But now that we have had another... Let's go break stuff!! :-P - 850R Thanks for the rep/compliments! - mojosodope Thanks for the rep the other day, cheers - Cliff ...they go with snow, right? - ~firefly~ 

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    Thanks Crispy, I can try that out to see if it helps. I do have a pair of kribs, but they generally stay away from eachother, sometimes have a stand off which involves the firemouth flaring his gills then running away, kinda funny to watch, no harm ever comes to any of the fish though.

    Andrea, I have tried countless times on trying to get one, I even bought a tank without them knowing, when they found out . . . . lets just say I sold that one on
    My therapist says I need a bigger tank . . . . .

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    Good impulse buy! lol Now heres one for your AC tank - C-Dub Thanks buddy - Aeonflame Here's another one for your awesome tank! - jeffs99dime Thanks for returning my nose. - tate8 Merry Christmas - KingFisher 
    Merry Christmas - Cliff Merry Christmas Scottishfish - jeffs99dime Merry Christmas Douglas - Taurus Please enjoy this holiday hog! - Trillianne Have a super christmas! - Aeonflame 
    Congrats on 1 year! - andreahp Congrats on 1 year! - jeffs99dime Happy One-Year! - Rue Happy New Year! - ~firefly~ Thanks for the birthday wishes - mommy1 
    No Message - 850R Now THAT was a nice quiet beer... But now that we have had another... Let's go break stuff!! :-P - 850R Thanks for the rep/compliments! - mojosodope Thanks for the rep the other day, cheers - Cliff ...they go with snow, right? - ~firefly~ 

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    Well I have been doing water changes every other day to try and combat this HITH, thankfully they have paid off

    I also added some rosy barbs amd they are acting as great dither fish for the kribs to chase off. I feel having them in midwater instead of the danios in the top level has given my firemouth more confidence. So all is now well in the tank.

    Thanks everyone for your help

    ScottishFish
    My therapist says I need a bigger tank . . . . .

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    Halt, who goes there? - Aeonflame It is I, Arthur, son of Uther Pendragon, from the castle of Camelot. King of the Britons, defeator of the Saxons, sovereign of all England! - Aeonflame Pull the other one! - Aeonflame I am... and this is my trusty servant Patsy. We have ridden the length and breadth of the land in search of knights who will join me in my court at Camelot. I must speak with your lord and master. - Aeonflame What?  Ridden on a horse? - Aeonflame 
    Yes - Aeonflame You're using coconuts! - Aeonflame What? - Aeonflame You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're bangin' 'em together. - Aeonflame So? We have ridden since the snows of winter covered this land, through the kingdom of Mercea, through... - Aeonflame 
    Where'd you get the coconuts? - Aeonflame We found them - Aeonflame Found them? In Mercea? The coconut's tropical! - Aeonflame AeonFlame sent them to us in a message not unlike these. So be off with you. - Aeonflame its always good to give your english teacher an apple - genocidex 
    Here's the closest I can get to a trout from Wyoming. - WhistlingBadger Thanks for the help with the pic, have one on me - Cliff Excuse me.. Is that a pleco in your pocket are are you just platy to see me? - Goes to 11! Much appreciated! - Sligg Because we're in this one together. ;P - KevinVA 

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    Always good to hear about a happy turn of events, glad this all worked out.

    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen

    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Smaug, you're here a lot just to say it's a waste of your time, poor baby, I bet you don't even know how big a loser you are, and how much we laugh at you and your foolish attempt to give your life meaning. Quit drinking, get a life, go take care of your family, grow up!


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    Yay! Glad to hear of a good outcome!
    46 gal fw tank with black skirt tetras, neon tetras, spotted cory catfish, cherry barbs, guppies, snails & 4 amano shrimp - plastic & live plants
    5 gal QT with green corys & 2 guppies

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    Good impulse buy! lol Now heres one for your AC tank - C-Dub Thanks buddy - Aeonflame Here's another one for your awesome tank! - jeffs99dime Thanks for returning my nose. - tate8 Merry Christmas - KingFisher 
    Merry Christmas - Cliff Merry Christmas Scottishfish - jeffs99dime Merry Christmas Douglas - Taurus Please enjoy this holiday hog! - Trillianne Have a super christmas! - Aeonflame 
    Congrats on 1 year! - andreahp Congrats on 1 year! - jeffs99dime Happy One-Year! - Rue Happy New Year! - ~firefly~ Thanks for the birthday wishes - mommy1 
    No Message - 850R Now THAT was a nice quiet beer... But now that we have had another... Let's go break stuff!! :-P - 850R Thanks for the rep/compliments! - mojosodope Thanks for the rep the other day, cheers - Cliff ...they go with snow, right? - ~firefly~ 

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    Thanks guys, I was worried about him, I will keep up the extra PWC for a while just to make sure it doesn't re-occur
    My therapist says I need a bigger tank . . . . .

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