Goldfish experts i need your help!!!!

[treaclepop]

okay well today my partner bought two goldfish supposedly 'orandas' one orange and white and the other black both little cute things but im not convinced that they are both orandas.

The black one has a wen so im convinced that gold fish is an oranda but in my eyes the other one looks like a ryukin (ive had one before) but im not sure as i have no experience with orandas so maybe its cos its young? But even my partner says it looks like a ryukin i feel like im going mad!!


Ive added some photos of them both can u help me plz??
Also if they are different breeds why was it with the orandas in the first place?

any comments i will appreciate highly! im just so confused with it all xxxxxxxxxx

This is the orange and white fish:

http://s1243.photobucket.com/albums/...urrent=061.jpg

This is them together:
http://s1243.photobucket.com/albums/...urrent=058.jpg

and again:
http://s1243.photobucket.com/albums/...rent%3D055.jpg

and again
http://s1243.photobucket.com/albums/...rent%3D054.jpg

[Lady Hobbs]

http://freshaquarium.about.com/od/go...dfish-Gallery/

Orange/white looks like a ryukin to me, too. He sure is cute little guy.

[Xavier]

Yep, that is a ryukin. The other one looks like a thin black oranda. Get some food in it.

[Lady Hobbs]

Ryukin are soooooo cute and so much more approperate for most fish tanks we see here. I wonder why more people don't buy them and always seem to get the huge goldfish that don't even fit with their tank size? I don't get it.

[treaclepop]

ahhh i knew it!! haha i spent hours looking at him thinking you look very much like a ryukin haha. He has the same markings and colours as my old ryukin had its scary maybe thats why i was drawn to him without realising.

No i dont get it either ! Ryukins are funny ones to watch. I dont get why my ryukin was with my oranda and being advertised as an oranda