Thread: i have free swimmers
08-17-2012, 10:34 PM #1
i have free swimmers
I guess the fourth time is the charm. This is my 4th spawn and i actually have about 30 free swimmers. I never got any more than 3 with all the other spawns and they never made it 24 hours after becoming free swimming. Any advice on keeping them alive would be great.
08-17-2012, 11:00 PM #2
Can't help ya mate, I have two pairs in a 90G community tank that spawn like clockwork but I never have wrigglers :-(. Too much traffic for them to make it that far.
I will be enjoying yours vicariously though while they last.
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08-18-2012, 01:53 AM #3
Wait 12 hours to feed newly hatched artemia. feed newly hatched artemia each 12 hours.
Of course there is a lot more info. Maybe they will let me suggest you look through the TAS forum to get some more detailed info. Maybe there is some here.
08-18-2012, 02:58 AM #4
do you have any live foods cultivating? i think those would be best for those fryKING OF THE GOLD BARBS RAWR!!!!
I wonder if i plant one of my tiger barbs would the demon seed grow to a full tree?
gotta love them bunnies!
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08-18-2012, 11:35 PM #5
Yes i do. I made 2 in-tank brine shrimp hatcheries out of 2 20 oz drnking water bottles. I have been feeding my guppy fry from them. I know they are small hatcheries but i get plenty of the baby brine shrimp.
08-19-2012, 03:24 AM #6
Plenty large enough. I feed 42 spawns from a 12 oz glass beaker.
08-19-2012, 04:42 PM #7
When i was searching for a diy hatchery online everyone said use a 2 liter bottle but i didn't want to put something that big in my tank.
08-20-2012, 03:29 AM #8
congrats and good luck.they do make a tank baby catcher its just a net that stays inside the tank if you can get them in it.fishguy420
08-20-2012, 06:50 PM #9
I use two jars for my brine. There are sooo many ideas for hatching brine shrimp. As long as you get a good hatch and you can get them to your fish I honestly dont think there is a wrong way to do it.
these are the ones I used for the most part
as far as keeping your babies alive clean water has been my best friend. if you keep them in the tank with the parents (learning this as well myself) its going to be hit or miss if you any at all as the parents learn to take care of their young. Especially if there are any other fish in the tank. If the parents think there is a threat tothe eggs/young they'll eat them. (at least thats how its worked for me so far).
Right now I have 3 tanks with one pair in each tank and I'm letting the parents raise them. I dont have a ton of young angels but my parents here are still very young and still learning. I have about 2-3 per parent right now.
If you are seperating the young from their parents, like I said clean water. Whats worked for me so far when I tried to raise a spawn my self is I used a 2 gallon tank for the for the eggs with a air stone close to the eggs to keep them clean. I picked out any white ones by hand. I didnt need to worry about water temp at the time because it was summer and pretty warn in my house so room temp was good enough. Though I do have a small heater I could have used if it was needed. Once they started free swimming I left them in the 2 gallong for about a week and changed 25% of the water daily. I feed them fresh brine twice a day. Just feed them what they can eat in short order. Try not to over feed them (just that that one myself) or they could develope health issues.
After that week I moved then swimmers to a 5 gallon. I still did the exact same thing as I did in the 2 gallon. When they got a bit bigger I moved them to a 10 gallon.
I didnt have too many more sizes past that so once they out grew the 10 they got moved to a 40 long. The problem for me here was there was a ton of room for very small fish. Just make sure you watch them all eat.
I discovered angel babies are as bad as real babies... pretty much a ton of work. lol still worth it.
By the end of this I ended up with 200 angels. (after some learning curves and trial and error)
Before you do this though make sure you have a place to bring them. I'm pretty lucky that I have 3 mom and pop shops around me that takes them. I get some store credit and one gives me $1 per inch of fish. Dont think youre going to get rich. I've pretty much spent what I've made. more tanks, more food, pumps, hoses... bla bla... lol
I've gotten some great help from the people here, at the angelfish forum ( http://www.angelfish.net/VBulletin/index.php ), and at Angels plus's learning pages ( http://www.angelsplus.com/ArticleBreeding.htm ). Go do a lot of reading before you jump in. plan it all out first.
Good luck!Angel breeder wanna-be
08-21-2012, 01:59 AM #10
Thanks for the advice. Ionly have about 25 right now and my lfs said they would take them once they are big enough. I have them in a 1 gallon right now, then will be moving to 10 gallon then 29 (once it is cycled).