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Gogi
08-10-2012, 07:39 PM
My 75 gallon tank has finished its fishless cycle. On Monday I am getting 3 baby red parrot fish. They are about an 1.5 inches. I was thinking of getting a pleco for a tanmate, but I was wonder what other fish I can get instead of the pleco?

smaug
08-10-2012, 08:30 PM
Skip the plec,just poop machines really. Have you considered making the tank parrot fish dominant? In a 75 gal you could keep 8 of these wonderful fish. I have a 55 gal with 6 of them and 4 silver dollars and its my favorite tank out of them all.

Lady Hobbs
08-10-2012, 08:32 PM
I have 5 in my 55 gallon with 3-bristlenose.

I consider my tank stocked full. Smaug has some of those of the smaller species but 4 of mine are a pretty good size. One is my runt and he's about 5".

But they are wonderful fish to keep with tetra's.

Gogi
08-10-2012, 09:50 PM
Thanks great. I was hoping to make it a parrot tank, but wasn't sure how many was too many so i figured i would get 3 to be safe. Now I am going to get 6!!! I would still like another kind of fish or 2. How about 2 pearl gourami? if I was the only one veiwing the tank i would be happy with just parrots but i have to keep everyone happy and they would like just a little variety.

smaug
08-10-2012, 10:05 PM
Research silver dollars. They are a very pretty fish and look very interesting when they reach full size. They have a good temperment to be kept with bp as well. 2 of my bp are 7 inches,2 of them about 4 or 5 inches and 2 of them are a small 3 inch variety. My 55 is overstocked but I do huge water changes.

Gogi
08-10-2012, 11:46 PM
Roger that. The LFS has them too, I take a closer look at the silver$$. Last I checked the silvers were priced @ $10 ea...ouch. Guess big tank=big budget lol

smaug
08-11-2012, 12:14 AM
I got mine at a dollar a piece fish sale at petsmart:hmm3grin2orange:

Lady Hobbs
08-11-2012, 12:42 AM
Gez.....maybe those where the Red Hooks or one of the different type. Here they cost no more than a tetra's. Agree they are wonderful fish. Make sure they are in a school because they are nervous nelly's.

They love greens and will eat plants so beware. Mine ate a whole big lettuce leaf every day plus their food. Here's a couple of those I had.

Lady Hobbs
08-11-2012, 01:33 AM
Group spawning because they all want to get in on the action.

This was taken over a year ago when they were smaller. I LOVE these fish!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/carolo/My%20Fish/spawn2.jpg

Gogi
08-11-2012, 02:35 AM
:18: Thank you Lady Hobbs those are awesome looking. I can wait to get those babies on Monday!! You are right about the silver dollars at my LFS they are red hooks. I ll look around for the ones in your pic. The main reason im getting BP young is because that way I can assure they weren't dyed or mutilated. I hope they get to as beatiful as yours. The tank has no real plants just driftwood and sand, some ornaments once again to please the others lol but it looks real nice. :hmm3grin2orange:

Lady Hobbs
08-11-2012, 05:26 AM
S Dollars do not eat java fern. That you could tie to your driftwood with fishing line if you really wanted some green in there. My first parrots lived to 8 years for one and 8.5 for the second. The ones I have now are about 3-3.5 years old.

Gogi
08-14-2012, 01:03 AM
Well here you go. These are my brand spanking new blood parrot chichlids.
http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fishpictures/data/500/thumbs/IMAG0196.jpg (http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fishpictures/showphoto.php?photo=22749)

http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fishpictures/data/500/thumbs/IMAG0195.jpg (http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fishpictures/showphoto.php?photo=22746)

I ll get better pics next week once they settle in more. They already seem happy they even ate :hmm3grin2orange:

smaug
08-14-2012, 01:10 AM
Those arent Bllod parrots so to speak. They may or may not turn colors to red later . I have 2 like that and they stay rather small.One of mine became mostly orange while the other stayed like yours.

Lady Hobbs
08-14-2012, 01:17 AM
Awwwww. Cute. I believe you have what are called the Killin/Karin blood parrots. They are a cross between a Flowerhorn and a Blood parrot. Regular are red very early and do not have the black markings.

http://www.whinny4me.com/Fish/Types/killin-bonsai-parrot-flowerhorn1.jpg

smaug
08-14-2012, 01:20 AM
And they are very likely adults as well. I thought mine were babys when I got them but they hardly grew!

Gogi
08-14-2012, 01:29 AM
Oooohhh man I got duped. Oh well Im actually not upset at all, thats weird. I really like these little guys. I always see people fall for the wrong labels and now Im one of them. Guess it was bound to happen espeacially since this LFS has :14: most of it labels in chinese.

Do these little guys have similar personalities like the blood parrots?

Gogi
08-14-2012, 01:37 AM
And they are very likely adults as well. I thought mine were babys when I got them but they hardly grew!

Oh now this isnt good :scry:
The whole point of getting them was to watch them grow. No good. Can I stil keep them and add bigger blood parrots that are definetly " blood" parrots?

Lady Hobbs
08-14-2012, 01:38 AM
@ smaug.....
Didn't you have the ones called permmision or something like that? Those are known to stay smaller. The red mammon is known to be very costly....up to $300......and there's also the Red Ingot and also the King Kong. I would have the King Kong if I had a bigger tank.

Here! Found one source but can't find the other that names all the varieties but there are several.

http://www.happybreed.com/en/species.htm

@Gogi.......you did not fall for the wrong label. They are ALL labeled as blood parrots. Most places only carry one kind, tho. Your type s generally harder to find.

Lady Hobbs
08-14-2012, 02:08 AM
The Killin/Karins confuse me some. Some call them just Killin's and other's Karins but you can call them either if you don't want to call them Blood parrots.

Killin, by the way, does not mean they kill everything. :ssmile:
Killin is the Chinese word for Unicorn.

The outside information is almost deployable on these fish. All written by people who don't know crap about them and many written when they first hit the marketplace and people were in a panic. Like: They can't swim right, They can't eat right. They have a terrible life. Their guts are squished together. They lips have been butchered with a knife.
:14: And all of it is wrong!

The Killin should grow to the normal 6-8". Closer to 6" more than likely.

Gogi
08-14-2012, 02:08 AM
Thanks Laddy Hobb that calmed me a bit. I think I am starting to become a BP fanatic lol. So many variations i was ignorant too. I definitely seen the king kong. They have it in that same LFS. I need to do more research on the ones I got. I really want the big ones , but really like these little guys too. Thank you both for all the info and help. I ll post what I learn about these little guys, I'm going back to intorrogate the LFS guy.:22:

Lady Hobbs
08-14-2012, 02:16 AM
He probably got a box of fish labeled as blood parrots and doesn't know the difference either.

They are given names according to their generics. The King Kong is bigger and redder and claimed to come from the Red Tx Child. Yours from the Flowerhorn and Female blood parrot. Others from the mating of another male cichlid. All kept secret, of course.

Gogi
08-14-2012, 02:23 AM
Of course.. Mums the word

Lady Hobbs
08-14-2012, 02:26 AM
:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: Not by us, silly. By the breeders.

smaug
08-14-2012, 10:10 AM
Yup,mine were labeled persimmons but look just liked the ops fish,maybe with a bit more orange.

Lady Hobbs
08-14-2012, 04:45 PM
Here's an awesome tank of them. A couple of different types.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDMUyCoY8jo I couldn't seem to imbed it.

Gogi
08-14-2012, 07:57 PM
Thanks that video answered my question about keeping the two kinds together. Im going to get 3 of the red on Friday or Saturday.

How can I determine if the fish is dyed? I want to avoid dyed fish at all cost.

Lady Hobbs
08-14-2012, 08:00 PM
Easy! They are ugly. Fake colors very obvious. They should just be a nice orange color to them.

Rocksor
08-14-2012, 08:02 PM
Thanks that video answered my question about keeping the two kinds together. Im going to get 3 of the red on Friday or Saturday.

How can I determine if the fish is dyed? I want to avoid dyed fish at all cost.

If it is called jellybean or bubblegum, then you know it's dyed.



http://parrotcichlid.com/node/15287#dm

Gogi
08-14-2012, 08:02 PM
That makes senses. Unfortunaley the LFS I bought the karin ,carry dyed fish also. I ll go to a different one for the red ones just to be safe.

Gogi
11-12-2012, 03:32 PM
So I got these baby fish in August. Thy where about 1.5 inches then and were gray wih black spots on there sides. Now they are around 2.5 to 3 inches big. They have turned or turning orange.

http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fishpictures/data/500/thumbs/IMG950666.jpg (http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fishpictures/showphoto.php?photo=23028)

http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fishpictures/data/500/thumbs/IMG950669.jpg (http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fishpictures/showphoto.php?photo=23027)

http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fishpictures/data/500/thumbs/IMG950668.jpg (http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fishpictures/showphoto.php?photo=23026)

Some of they turned almost black before they started turnung orange.

Rocksor
11-12-2012, 03:58 PM
The peeling effect (or changing color) is the result of the red devil (a. labiatus) or midas (A. citrenellus) parentage used to create blood parrots.

fishmommie
11-12-2012, 04:11 PM
You're going to LOVE your BPs. I took my cue from LadyHobbs because she loves hers so much. They are the most entertaining fish ever. Be aware that you might not see much of them the first couple of weeks or so. they are very shy and need places to hide to feel secure. but once they realize they're safe, they are very visible and playful.
I've only had mine 2 months and they snatch peas right out of my fingers when I feed them on veggie day LOL
mine are still babies but there's a video of them on page 18 or 19 of my journal (link in my sig line) if you want to see them interact with other fish.
Have fun!!

fishmommie
11-12-2012, 04:16 PM
http://parrotcichlid.com/node/15287#dm

This is a great link Rocksor. gogi, Heads up on the paragraph on stress spots. I've experienced that with 2 of my BP's shortly after I brought them home. it's worrisome to see the dark blotches but the end result was after a few days it all went away and the fish are fine.
LHobbs also pointed out to me it's not a good idea to let them feed on the surface as the sometimes ingest air with the food and can potentially cause some swim bladder issues.

as you can see - anyone who has them are pretty fanatic about how great they are LOL

Gogi
11-12-2012, 04:23 PM
Thanks guys. They are shy most of the time but during feeding time they become Rambos. They dont care whose around lol. They are the only fish n the tank. Still thinking if I should or should not add other fish. I like it the way it is.

fishmommie
11-12-2012, 04:36 PM
Thanks guys. They are shy most of the time but during feeding time they become Rambos. They dont care whose around lol. They are the only fish n the tank. Still thinking if I should or should not add other fish. I like it the way it is.

sorry - I missed that this thread was started in august and you already had your fish. You probably know a LOT more about them than I do at this point.

Gogi
11-12-2012, 05:40 PM
All I know is they are a bunch of weirdos that like dig, eat and sometimes swim funny. i love em!!!:hmm3grin2orange:

fishmommie
11-12-2012, 06:08 PM
All I know is they are a bunch of weirdos that like dig, eat and sometimes swim funny. i love em!!!:hmm3grin2orange:

yup. they are sassy, silly, funny, demanding little clowns. never dreamed I'd laugh at a fish. but then, I laugh at my snails and some of their antics so there ya go. I think I need help.:help:

Rocksor
11-12-2012, 07:58 PM
This is a great link Rocksor. gogi, Heads up on the paragraph on stress spots. I've experienced that with 2 of my BP's shortly after I brought them home. it's worrisome to see the dark blotches but the end result was after a few days it all went away and the fish are fine.
LHobbs also pointed out to me it's not a good idea to let them feed on the surface as the sometimes ingest air with the food and can potentially cause some swim bladder issues.

as you can see - anyone who has them are pretty fanatic about how great they are LOL

Sometimes the black areas are permanent.