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Askew80
07-03-2012, 06:27 PM
Hi all, my first post as bought the children a small 17l tank to keep some small minows in. It a toy story themed tank which comes with pump etc.

I cleaned the tank with warm water and washed the gravel and ornament etc. the tank and filled with treated water (to remove clhorine) has got lots of condensation at the top and also gone cloudy and smells a bit. No I followed the instructions.

On the filter there is a ball like end on the end of a straw and it said to put this up and out into the air and then it puts air in the tank, and I'm not sure if this what's caused the prOblems as surely this needs to be in the water to filter the water? What are other peoples thoughts on this? I have switched this round and the condensation has all ready gone! Is this the right thing to do?

Thanks in advance (and any other advance ppl can give is greatly appropriated!!)

MandyK
07-03-2012, 06:32 PM
Are you talking about an air pump? The little ball (airstone) goes into the water and makes bubbles which help to put oxygen in the water.

Are you doing a fishless cycle?

Stlouisfish
07-03-2012, 06:32 PM
That tank is less than 5 gallons - please do not put any fish in it it is really too small even for minnows.

I apologize for not answering your questions, but if you are interested in getting fish, you might want to look into a minimum of 10 gallons (sorry I don't know how many liters that is).

If you want to put something in that tank, you could look into shrimp or snails once it goes through the cycling process (you might want to read about that).

MandyK
07-03-2012, 06:34 PM
+1 to the above. Although a betta would probably be okay, but not really more than that.

Goes to 11!
07-03-2012, 06:44 PM
On the filter there is a ball like end on the end of a straw and it said to put this up and out into the air and then it puts air in the tank, I have switched this round and the condensation has all ready gone! Is this the right thing to do?

Thanks in advance (and any other advance ppl can give is greatly appropriated!!)
+ 1 to a larger tank and reading the cycling stickys. A picture is worth 1000 words, Here's how to post them. (http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=5&highlight=posting)
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Azurescriber
07-03-2012, 06:51 PM
Frogs (1-2) would be a cute option for kids, or a betta. Shrimp would be very fun too! They might even breed!

The water probably stagnated if the airstone wasn't in the right way. You should have air being pushed out through the stone into the water, making bubbles.

Please read up on cycling before you put anything in the tank. If you don't, your fish will certainly die.

A larger tank will certainly be more fun for kids, and not much more difficult if you have the space. There are tons of threads on how to stock a small tank so that everyone is happy.

If you do the research and ask for advice, fishkeeping can be a rewarding experience!

Askew80
07-03-2012, 07:15 PM
http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/m/m5_eLSLX_QY_80-JPaIZf0Q/140.jpg

So it's the straw bit that not sure if should go in the water to recycle and filter the water or in the air so it puts air into the water?

Hi this is the same pump,

Thanks do far for the advice, room is a bit tight for a bigger tank, been having conversations with the wife re getting a bigger tank but wanted to c how got on with this tank first!!

Azurescriber
07-03-2012, 07:29 PM
Yep, that goes in the water. It's your filter uptake.

Most tanks don't come with an airstone if it's a setup kit. Make sure you have enough open air between the top of the water and the lid, and you should be fine for now. The filter water will make an attractive splashing sound.

Small tanks are actually harder to maintain, btw.

Please please read up on cycling. Cycling creates good bacteria that eat fish waste and converts it to less toxic chemicals, so your fish aren't swimming in a sewer.

Askew80
07-03-2012, 07:34 PM
Ive left a 3cm gap at present as per the instructions is that enough? Would you recommend getting an air atone? I'm goin to buy a wage testing kit tommorrow to take a test of the water. Pets for home said be able to have a fish after 3 days and to take a water sample (tommorrow) but I'm not convinced! After reading Internet and know to what approx a month!

Goes to 11!
07-03-2012, 07:35 PM
Thank you, Though I did mean a picture of YOUR filter, To be honest that is too small to see anything for me but I see it has been covered above.

It's always good to see what we are talking about, Please take an actual pic as it may help us refine your setup as you have further questions.
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EDIT: Better yet, A full tank shot :-D

Askew80
07-03-2012, 07:35 PM
I have put a live plant in it by the way!!

Askew80
07-03-2012, 07:54 PM
Photo of tank so far ....

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t466/askew80/76a33284.jpg

MandyK
07-03-2012, 08:07 PM
Aww! How cute! I'd def make sure to read up on the fishless cycling. You'll get it done much faster that way. Then I personally would go for a pretty betta for the tank! As was stated above it's not really suited for anything but one fish, or some invertebrates. If you don't cycle (which takes much longer than 3 days) you will likely lose whatever you decide to put in the tank. Try to get the API Master Kit and you'll be set! The actual strips you can buy to test with are only worth throwing in the garbage. Found that out the hard way.

animalluver
08-04-2012, 03:58 PM
Imo I would get a 10 gallon. Ten gallons are cheap if you get a used one on craigslist or something. But in your five gallon you could have a Betta and a few snails but the snails will reproduce very fast and lay hundreds of eggs so recommend just gettingbone Betta and one snail. Or you could have a shrimp tank with a few shrimp. :)