Can someone help identify my fishies?

[Don138]

Hey folks, new member and new aquarist here!

I'm wondering can someone help identify my fish? I just bought a selection of "beginner" fish, and as I was so pre-occupied with it all I forgot to ask what was what! I know there are a couple of regular goldfish in there, but I'm trying to identify the two small guys with the black stripe, and the guy with the white/black/orange patches.

Apologies for the picture quality, I couldn't find batteries for my camera so I just used my iPhone for now.

Thanks!

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[gm72]

1. Penguin Tetra
2. Some kind of goldfish

What size tank please? You understand that most goldfish are coldwater while the tetras are tropical?

[Brhino]

I believe the multicolored goldfish is called a Shubunkin, but it's a normal common goldfish for all practical purposes (care requirements, growth potential, etc).

[Don138]

GM72. Thanks for the reply. The store I bought from had them in with regular goldfish and said they were suitable for coldwater.. They're a reputable seller so I presumed he knew what he was talking about. I guess it would be best to return them. The tank is a 6 gallon or so, can't remember exactly.

BRHINO. Thanks also! I was wondering if it was just a breed of goldfish or a different fellow entirely, thanks for solving that one. :ssmile:

[gm72]

By looking at the tank I have a fear that it is maybe a 5 gallon hex? Would be too small for any of the fish if I'm right.

[Don138]

What size would you reccommend? Again, I only bought it under the advice of the guy in the shop.. he's not a fish specialist it seems!

[Brhino]

Penguin tetras grow to be 3-4 inches, so you'd want something in the 15-20 gallon size, or more if you have space/money.

Common goldfish grow to be over a foot long. They need a very big tank, or ideally an outdoor pond. It's true that there are many people that keep goldfish in tanks your size or smaller, but it makes for a very poor environment for them and they don't end up living very long at all.

[mermaidwannabe]

The calico fish is a Shubunkin goldfish.

The ones with the stripe, I couldn't tell you, but others here have identified them for you.

-- mermaidwannabe

[MrDrums]

Those fish with the black strip look very much like Debauwi catfish, especially the way they are positioned. Hard to tell, but they very well might be penguin tetras too.

[teddscau]

You should have at least a 30g for goldfish. Most goldfish grow surprisingly large.

[Don138]

Cool, I'll sort it asap. Thanks for the pointers folks.