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Bill M.
07-07-2007, 05:17 PM
I admit it. I think I may have jumped the gun. I recently got a python, and I was anxious to use it. I set it up, and did a good 50% water change in my 29g. I DID NOT clean the gravel, per Lady Hobbs instructions, as the bacteria colonies are just setting up. I just held the tube above the gravel, a good 5 inches or so, and sucked out 50% *approximate.. just took the water level down to what I thought looked like half of the tank* of the water. I added about 40 ml of stress coat, and flipped the switch and added tap water that was temperature matched to my tank.

My question: Was this too early to do a water change?? The tank has been set up for nearly a month, and with fish for about 3 weeks. There really wasn't a reason other than I wanted to try out the python, but I figured it can't hurt it right?? I also did my 10 gallon, with a gravel vacuum, and it was amazing. Vacuumed and filled in under 10 minutes.

Lady Hobbs
07-07-2007, 05:20 PM
It should be just fine. You needed to add some oxygen to the tank anyway.

I do 50% and sometimes more every week on all my tanks but as long as you didn't mess with the gravel, you should do just fine.

Bill M.
07-07-2007, 05:23 PM
Holy crap!!!!

That was fast! Could you do me a favor and move this thread to the general aquarium section??? I didn't mean to put it in the beginners....

Thanks!

gm72
07-07-2007, 09:10 PM
Agreed. Truly you could do a WC every day if you wanted to so long as you don't disturb things too much. Glad you like your python!

zackish
07-07-2007, 09:29 PM
What exactly is a python?

gm72
07-07-2007, 09:40 PM
Look at it here:

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troy
07-07-2007, 09:46 PM
I have one of those things. They do work really good.

dev
07-07-2007, 09:55 PM
Wow. That looks like an almost exact copy of the JBL Aqua In-Out.

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zackish
07-07-2007, 10:10 PM
aaa I see them using this everytime at my LFS cleaning their tanks.

gm72
07-07-2007, 10:12 PM
Wow. That looks like an almost exact copy of the JBL Aqua In-Out.

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Looks like the same idea, anyway. The python is the American version so it seems.

Lady Hobbs
07-07-2007, 11:38 PM
There are 3 different companies that I know of that make these and probably more I don't know about.

About your water changes: the bacteria is mainly in the gravel and in the filter media. Water, itself, contains very little which is why large water changes never hurt.

I didn't move your thread, Bill. Sometimes they get messed up by doing so and since you are getting good responses right here, I left it as is.

dev
07-08-2007, 12:20 AM
Looks like the same idea, anyway. The python is the American version so it seems.

I think the valve that makes it possible looks exactly the same, except the JBL one is blue - the rest is just a hose after all. Maybe one is making it on a license from the other :)

For some reason the link i provided is broken, looks like JBL uses some sort of dynamic system for their product catalog, so the page id changes - anyway, it is now linking a different product.

Drumachine09
07-08-2007, 12:24 AM
For some reason the link i provided is broken, looks like JBL doesnt use some sort of dynamic system for their product catalog, so the page id changes - anyway, it is now linking a different product.



I thought you were going screwy or something! lol, its linking some product called "limekollect" (sp). Im guessing it collects limes.....


You can easily make a python with some vinyl hose, a gravel vac, a few basic plumbing parts, and a water bead fill and drain kit.

gm72
07-08-2007, 12:36 AM
Enter Drum, the DIY king. :28:

Drumachine09
07-08-2007, 12:43 AM
Enter Drum, the DIY king. :28:


Lol, im like the Mcguyver of the aquarium trade!



But seriously, if you add up costs and such, DIYing a python can cut the cost by 2-3x.

gm72
07-08-2007, 12:48 AM
Drum:
Wait, if I take this straw and bend it, and add a PS3 controller, and wire it into a Rena air pump, we can diffuse the bomb! :19:

Drumachine09
07-08-2007, 12:51 AM
Drum:
Wait, if I take this straw and bend it, and add a PS3 controller, and wire it into a Rena air pump, we can diffuse the bomb! :19:



No silly, thats how you make margaritas!




I belive the price for 1/2" vinyl hose is around 7 cents per foot. At least, its that at my LHS. (local hardware store)

gm72
07-08-2007, 12:58 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Vinyl hose can be too flimsy for some applications. Consider going with the hose that has nylon-type threading weaved into the tube itself. I use it to substitute for the ridiculously expensive Eheim green tubing.

dev
07-08-2007, 01:10 AM
But seriously, if you add up costs and such, DIYing a python can cut the cost by 2-3x.

You are likely right, but I like to have someone to yell at when I can't get stuff to work as intended :P

gm72
07-08-2007, 01:15 AM
Good one, Dev. I can see this one happening at my house:
Me: "No seriously honey, Drum said it will work."
Wife: "Seriously honey, you're an idiot. It will never work."
Me: (screaming as water shoots everywhere)
Wife: "See, told you so. Where does this Drum person live?"
:hmm3grin2orange:

Drumachine09
07-08-2007, 01:20 AM
Good one, Dev. I can see this one happening at my house:
Me: "No seriously honey, Drum said it will work."
Wife: "Seriously honey, you're an idiot. It will never work."
Me: (screaming as water shoots everywhere)
Wife: "See, told you so. Where does this Drum person live?"
:hmm3grin2orange:



*Recites a 10,000 word disclamer in 6.43 seconds*

gm72
07-08-2007, 01:23 AM
Literally LOL.

Thiscontraptionwillworkifyoudontpayattentiontothesafetyconsiderationspleasesendusmoney.