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xenador
10-27-2010, 12:22 AM
So I ventured into Petco after I had just purchased my tank, hearing that plants were beneficial to fish I purchased a few in the tubes with the gel around the roots and then a random assortment of bulbs. All appears well and fine, but for future reference I was wondering if there are any plant gurus out there that might have some time to Id them:

purchased elsewhere:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/th_DSCF0551.jpg (http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/?action=view&current=DSCF0551.jpg)
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/th_DSCF0553.jpg (http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/?action=view&current=DSCF0553.jpg)

one of the bulbs
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/th_DSCF0550.jpg (http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/?action=view&current=DSCF0550.jpg)
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/th_DSCF0549.jpg (http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/?action=view&current=DSCF0549.jpg)

xenador
10-27-2010, 12:26 AM
one of the tube plants:
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0542.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0547.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0546.jpg
another tube plant:
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0545.jpg

xenador
10-27-2010, 12:27 AM
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0544.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0543.jpg
bulb, shot up long stalks with white flowers on them that went above the surface of the water after being planted...just recently it also sent some of its leaves to float on top, this made me think it might be a cousin of the lilly pad, the leaves that rested on top had the same shape as the rest although they changed color to a yellowish and then my gouramis ate them.
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0541.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0540.jpg

xenador
10-27-2010, 12:27 AM
another plant I bought in a tube from petco
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0538.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0537.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0535.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/xenador/fishtank/DSCF0533.jpg

smaug
10-27-2010, 12:32 AM
In the first 2 pics right behind the cory seems to be a slender val.
In the first pic to the right of the cory it looks like microsword/

The last group is not aquatic.

the 2nd group are apongentums.
The non aquatics will just die and add to the pollutants.

xenador
10-27-2010, 12:51 AM
thanks for the fast reply :)

yeah the one to the right corry in the first pic is a narrow leaf chain sword(Echinodorus Tennellus) still in transition but well on its way to its aquatic form, I guess I shouldve done a better job cropping that one.

so in the last group I guess I should go ahead and take them out? they seem to have been holding on for quite some time now...although I guess I could attribute that to there proximity to the airstone as this might be simulating a bog like condition. I can say that there has been no growth watsoever since I bought them but I did start to notice some decay at the leaf tips today...

on the apongentum I hear that they can get quite big, does it lend itself to pruning?

mermaidwannabe
10-27-2010, 01:55 AM
Did you get all your plants in the aquarium section of PetCo and the other store (where you indicate you purchased them elsewhere)? Why would they sell non-aquatic plants in the aquarium section? Only aquatic plants should be sold in the aquarium section. If the plants are intended to grow in outdoor ponds, they should so state on the labels. Some of those will bloom above the surface of the water.

I guess it just pays to research. I'm surprised the identity of the plants were printed on the tubes labels of the tubes. Were the tubes even labeled, at all?

-- mermaid

KatzeSlaugen
10-27-2010, 02:00 AM
Did you get all your plants in the aquarium section of PetCo and the other store (where you indicate you purchased them elsewhere)? Why would they sell non-aquatic plants in the aquarium section? Only aquatic plants should be sold in the aquarium section. If the plants are intended to grow in outdoor ponds, they should so state on the labels. Some of those will bloom above the surface of the water.

I guess it just pays to research. I'm surprised the identity of the plants were printed on the tubes labels of the tubes. Were the tubes even labeled, at all?

-- mermaid

if its the tubes im thinking of they are labeled with the latin name (which they dont always have correct). i agree they shouldnt have no aquatic plants in the aquatic section, but thats corporates deal the individual stores have very little say in it.

it always pays off to do a lot of research before hand. even on plants i know are aquatic i always pull my phone out and search some quick info about them to double check.

xenador
10-27-2010, 05:56 PM
yeah originally the tubes had names on them, I was of the opinion at that time that plants would take care of themselves and had no special requirements so I didn't bother writing down the names.

All of the plants in the tubes were labeled aquatic, although it seemed strange to me that they weren't submerged but rather just had a gel to keep the root wet. I had posed the question to the person who was standing watch over the aquarium and it seemed that his answer was something to the effect of, all aquatic plants have a non-aquatic stage and they will morph once you put them in your tank. which I now am finding out is partially true for some plants but most reputable aquariums tend to keep them in water so that they can begin there transformation before you buy them even though some are cultivated above water (like the chain sword)

the more I learn about petco and petsmart the more I realized that they have no idea what they are doing. any time I have bought fish form them they have wiped out my tank due to a disease. I observed there filtration system and it has slits in all the tanks to allow for water to move the length of the row so they can store more fish, but as a side effect if anything in that row is sick they all tend to get the disease.

the elsewhere plant I got from a local shop I think it was called: Aquatek Tropical Fish, I remember that they had it rooted in there sub-strait and pulled it out but it didn't come with a tag to id it, when I put that particular one in my tank I trimmed it to about half its height and it seems to reproduce by sending out shoots next to it under the sub-strait, there was no evidence of a bulb when I observed the roots. I think Im going on a month with it and it has produced another plant almost the same height so it appears to like my tanks conditions.

KH: 40mg/L
Ammonia: negligable
PH: 7.0-7.5 (there has been a bit of a flux due to the fact that I am still experimenting with the KH levels, right now it's at a 7.0)
lighting: low

smaug
10-27-2010, 09:19 PM
I see your water specifics at the bottom of your last post.You state ammonia negligable?Does that mean you have an ammo reading?If so,0 is the only acceptable reading in a cycled tank.

xenador
10-28-2010, 10:51 PM
smaug yeah, my meters lowest indicator is .02 ppm so I didn't want to say 0 without being certain. it is probably reasonably safe to assume that though...I work in computer science and Ive been taught that making assumptions without proofs is bad, so I'm probably being too careful when I say that the levels are negligible.