View Full Version : black upside down catfish?

07-21-2010, 09:34 PM
Hi Guys, I made my decision today for my 125 gallon, just need some identification help. I was at Walmart and usually don't buy fish there. But they give up the fish, because renovation. That's when I saw this two black 2.5 and 3 inches long catfishes, which were in the tank with some regular Pictus catfish. I asked what they were and was told some kind of upside down catfish. That is true, even they look a lot like Pictus with their long whiskers, they swim upside down. They are now in my Quaranine tank, until I will put them in my 125 gallon. Does anyone know a black upside down catfish. I also wonder how big they will get.

07-21-2010, 09:49 PM
I have 2 in my 220. One is about 8", the other larger, perhaps 10". Nocturnal usually. Provide hiding spaces. They eat any food I put in there but seem to prefer Hikari sinking wafers.

Edit: I edited because I underestimated their size. Just took a peek and these measurements are pretty accurate.

07-21-2010, 10:10 PM
Thanks so much for the information. Do you know their exact name? I can't find them in my books, only the normal upside down catfish. I just wonder how they made it to Walmart. Never even saw them in my LFS, which delivers my 125 Gallon tank tonight. Excited!

07-22-2010, 12:26 AM
Oh Boy, found them in the Internet. They are Mystus leucophasis, Family: Bagridae, Genus: Mystus, Species: leucophasis, also known as Giant Black Upside Down Asian Catfish (Burma). They get 5 - 7 inches long. They are rare and go for $50 at fishauctions. And I got them for under five bucks!!

07-22-2010, 03:48 AM
How many did you get? Breed them and make millions thumbs2:

07-22-2010, 10:32 AM
Oh Boy, found them in the Internet. They are Mystus leucophasis, Family: Bagridae, Genus: Mystus, Species: leucophasis, also known as Giant Black Upside Down Asian Catfish (Burma). They get 5 - 7 inches long. They are rare and go for $50 at fishauctions. And I got them for under five bucks!!

Well whatever the proper name of the fish I can promise you they get more than 5-7 inches long, mine are much larger than that.

07-22-2010, 01:26 PM
I got two. How big is yours and how old? I put them in a 125 gallon tank with one common pleco (now 12 inch.) and 6 clownloaches (3.5 -5 inch - one year old).

07-22-2010, 05:33 PM
They aren't really rare (nothing Wal-Mart sells is, they come from Asian fish farms) and are available at Wal-Mart fairly often. However, they are highly conspecific-aggressive. Think of them the same as African cichlids like Tropheus or demasoni. If you keep a large group of 10 or more the aggression gets spread around enough that none are killed. Keeping 2 (or any number less than 8) in the same tank will eventually end up as one, and the rest will have killed each other off. A large tank full of them makes quite a display, and they will breed in that sort of setup.
They are very hardy fish, and mix well with large cichlids because they're tough enough to defend their own territory and bite back when pushed.

07-22-2010, 09:28 PM
Will they be o.k. with my large common pleco and my 6 clowns? I also wanted to add larger Rainbowfish and Congo Tetras. Or what do you recommend as schooling fish with them in the 125 Gallon.

07-23-2010, 03:55 AM
One of them will be ok, the other isn't likely to survive if left in the same tank. I don't think they'll bother schooling fish, they're mainly concerned about territory and food.

07-23-2010, 06:27 PM
Well, I can't bring them back to Walmart, they get rid of everything because they want to throw the old tanks out. They might kill him, if he doesn't sell fast enough. I anybody interested in one of them? I live in Winchester, VA.

07-23-2010, 06:30 PM
Does anybody live close to Winchester, VA? I don't want any money for it, just a good home. Otherwise I try with enough caves and hiding places in the 125 gallon. There was another guy writing he has also two and they are still both alive. Sometimes fish have different characters like humans, too.

07-23-2010, 07:53 PM
I had one of those and it died for some unknown reason. In the end he was a right side up catfish. :hmm3grin2orange:

07-24-2010, 03:53 AM
Maybe 2 will survive in a 6' tank, I tried keeping 3 in a 55 and ended up with 1.
If one does look like it's getting thrashed you could probably swap it off at the pet store in Winchester. It's been years since I was down there, but someone I work with was there a couple weeks ago.

07-24-2010, 04:27 PM
Are you talking about the Aquatic Center Winchester? Because that is were I got my 125 gallon tank. I am a good customer there, but also buy fish once a while at Petsmart and even Walmart (more to rescue them). I got my two 405 Fluval Canisters running and seeded them with media from my 305 Fluval Canister in the 55 gallon. So hopefully that jumpstart a bit the cycling. Will not put them in before it is not safe.

08-23-2010, 04:09 PM
I have one that is about 6 inches long. He is is in a 125 gallon with 2 pictus, 1 convict cichlid,1 common pleco,1 leapord ctenopoma and 4 loaches.

Sometimes he will fight with the pleco or convict. But for the most part he ignores the other fish. I even have 2 otos that have not been eaten.

08-23-2010, 06:23 PM
Here the update. They both doing well in the 125 gallon, because I put enough caves, driftwood and plants in it. I also feed 3 times the day smaller amounts. Looks like that works. They also come out during the day when I feed. It is funny with one of them snatching away a pellet in front of the common pleco and swim fast with it in hiding. They been growing now to 4 in. Hope it stays that way and I can keep them both.

09-09-2010, 04:36 PM
Just want everybody to know, they still coming along in my 125 gallon. One is bigger now (4.5 in) the other one looks fatter, but is only 3.5 in. Wish I could tell if they are male and female. They also coming along with the recently moved in 6 Clownloaches. One even shares his cave with them.

09-24-2010, 12:14 AM
Every winter season I sell them in my store and I must say that they get pretty vicious.

Have you noticed any grumpy behavior yet? if not, be prepared.:)

09-24-2010, 01:44 AM
Well. the smaller one stays more close to his cave, but like I said the bigger one shares his hollow tree cave with the clowns. At feeding time (3 times the day smaller portions) he darts out and grabs a pellet and shoots back behind the driftwood. They grow really fast!